Eating This Food Will LIGHT UP Your Brain! - Aleksander Omtvedt

[Music] Hello everyone. Thank you for joining me for another episode of the Plant Freem. I'm your host Dr. Anthony Chaffy and today I have a very special guest all the way over from Norway, Alexander Olfett, who is going to share his story with us, Alexander. So very nice to meet you and thank you for coming on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing good. How about you? How are you doing? I'm doing very very well. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for doing this. I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah, I've been waiting a long time to meet you and you're a big role model of me. Oh, well, thanks. I'm glad that uh my videos are helpful. Um, so for people who haven't come across you, can you tell us a bit about yourself and and how you came to the carnivore diet? Uh, yeah. My name is Alexander. I'm um 36 years old. I have a house and wife and children. Soon getting a new son now in December, so I'm looking forward for that. Nice. Um I've been working in healthcare like earlier in my profession. I know I have a tourist company taking tourists to like local um treasures. But I wanted to talk about the carnivore diet and I'm a stress player. I've been playing chess my whole life and I've been playing on a really high level. I feel myself. I'm top 1% in the lead chess. is like the online uh most used online um that works web page in the world. Nice. So like I'm top there at least. I'm like 2,400 rating there. If you know about the rating system and yeah I I haven't really come across it myself. Um but my my so basically in chess it's like really easy. It's like you get rating like if you beat better players you get high rating and if you lose then you get lower rating. So like that rating says how good you are. Like pretty clean cut. So if like one 2,000 player is playing like a 1900 player, like the two 2,000 players should win probably like seven and a half of 10 of 10 times maybe. Okay. So yeah, if you like 300 rating point more, then you should win like 10 of 10. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. Yeah. Yeah. And so what um Oh, sorry. Yeah. So, I wanted to talk about played um I've been playing chess my whole life. So, I've been competing in the Norwegian Championship for 18 18 times in my life. Not the last two years because of Corona, but like the last two years now after Corona. Mhm. Um so, I've been playing in this class one. It's like you have a different class system according to how good you are. So, I was playing in this class one. I've been playing there for nine years and I wanted to qualify for the masters group. the masters group is like the next highest group in Norway. Like the elite level is like they're just too strong. They're like doing like this more professionally, you can say. Um yeah. So um what's interesting now is like I have like small children, I have a wife and I have like a job. So I don't have so much time to play chess like I used to be. But uh this was the time I made my qualifying when I not been doing before. And I think that's because of the carnivore because then you have like a higher concentration and you're what can you say the you have a more steady focus level. Yes. Like in a regular diet you have like this incident going up and down and you just get so knuckered when you're playing like for so many hours. Like if you play a regular tournament you play like four to five hours every day and it's like for eight days and you have like preparation also. So then you're looking at maybe six hours like every day for eight days. Yeah, then it's important to have like the right amount of energy and the right amount of um focus and um like comparing to you for example like you play rugby and like okay you can let them you do a mistake and then your opponent scores or and okay you play a game but it's only for two hours but chess you play like for one week it's like six five or four five hours every day and you're only like one mistake away from losing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we like if you just make one mistake in one game then you lose the game. So it's really rough. There's no room for mistakes. I play this tournament. I I didn't lose one game. So um Oh nice. When still playing I was like there was a lot of um games I was looking to lose but then I kind of edged it to make a draw or it was a equal game and then I edged it to win. So that's about like then it's like important to have this steady focus when you've been playing for so many hours. Yeah, definitely. Because when your body is running on glucose, then you can feel like your body is energy is falling down and then you're losing your concentration. Mhm. Yeah. So, yeah, that's that's the thing with um chess you can say. Okay. Yeah. So, what Yeah. Well, it's it's funny um that you know when I when I was a kid, we had a my my dad had some you know several books on chess and I remember my brother and I uh were reading one and we're trying to sort of you know teach ourselves a bit more about chess and it was actually hilarious. They the um author was giving some examples of a game and saying you know this moved here and this move there and it was like about about four moves in it was literally like moving a pawn. They moved this pawn, you know, to, you know, this, you know, to this position and it just said um and in parenthesis and um and he moved his pawn here and he said parenthesis a mistake that would cost him the game. And I was like, whoa, already, you know, and that was but that was it. You know, he just made that one early mistake and it just set up the whole game to to be a disaster for him. And uh yeah, you have you can't you can't make a There's no room for mistakes. No. So like imagine like have you heard about Magnus Carson? Magnus Carson? I don't know if I have. No, he's an is the world's best chess player has been like dominating the game for 10 years. Oh wow. Wow. So So recently play played 110 games without losing. Wow. And then you So if you if you want to be able to do that, you going to have to play like 4,000 moves. And if you just make make one mistake in one of those games, then you lose. Yeah. Right. emotion. So like that's the level that she's at. Like I'm not at that level like like for sure, but that's that's how just works. Yeah. So that's why I think it's so important with the carnivore diet and having the steady energy and steady focus and don't do mistakes. That's the big one. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. My uh my niece and nephews are are really interested in chess now, especially especially my nephews and uh I'm sure they would probably probably know exactly who that is, but Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, definitely. What um what what made you decide to to start the carnivore diet in the first place? What what uh got you interested? Oh, yeah. Thank you for asking for that. Um no, I started when I was when I was when I was a child. I didn't have like a good um good nutrition growing up. It's nothing about like my parents or anything. We just didn't have like good good habits with food. And then I kind of kept that going until I was like 27. And then I was starting to get like all this inflammation in my body and a lot of like injuries because I've been always been doing like a lot of sports in my life. So I never been like unhealthy or anything. I've always been like been doing good in sports like in general. Mhm. But then I got like all these muscle problems and I thought it was horrible because then I couldn't do stuff. Yeah. So then I met a old chess friend of mine, his name was Eric. Um, first I went to like the steps like the regular stuff with going to the doctor and they they couldn't help me and go to nutritionist and go to them like mainstream you know how that works and it doesn't help you but my friend Eric is also a nutritionist but it was also like yeah feel a little bit um contrary contra contrarian yeah contrarian yes so he was really about this paleo diet so he started me on so that kind of helped me and um when I started paleo. I lost my inflammation and like all of my problems, but I think it only took me this far. But my health was good. So, I did this for like uh six or seven years. Mhm. Uh and then I started to get like more problems with the same um with the same um inflammation and with the sore muscles and stuff. So, then I started with the keto diet, if you know it, the keto. I was looking up at um Dr. B on online that kind of helped me. So I went from 98 kilos to 92. Um and I still had some tolerance but I was doing okay and my life was going okay I guess. But then that was like two years ago I started to take up my golf again because I love playing golf. But uh you play golf too or um sometimes it's um infrequent though. Yeah. Okay. No, but the problem is I got when I was starting to play golf, I just started to get like my pain in my lower back. So then I was starting to do some painkillers and do do that route. But then I was thinking I can't do this. This is not sustainable and I'm not good at it anyway. So I just had to I just had to quit the game because my lower back was so horrible. I would just couldn't play it. Okay. So then I was it was a funny story because there's like a gangster rapper on in in Norway called the Pimp Ocean. Have you heard of him? No. I I'd love to hear a Norwegian gangster rapper though. That' be that would be amazing. Yeah. No, it's it's really cool because he's like um he's like 50 years old and they do all these health hacks and was talking about carnivore and all this stuff really and then he's going going on TV and he's like always in like an argument with the mainstream and the doctors and like overwrate people would think they have like good health. Nice. So I was kind of looking at him and then I was thinking like okay but she just recently did like 100 kilometers of skiing in like five hours. That's like and he's like 50. So that's like really good. like the top elite is like doing 50 kilometers for like two hours. Oh wow. So that's like really good like Yeah. And he he's like into like nose breings. So I have like this tape when he was skiing and like it was like he's like a character but I thought it was a little bit fun. So I was thinking okay but yeah maybe it was for him. So then I'm going to check this out myself. So then I was going going online and then I was looking at you and I Dr. vector and um the other guys and then I just like see so people have like this incredible results like people have been cure cancer and people been curing like autoimmune diseases and all this stuff and it like sounds too good to be true really but I was I was I was a little bit skeptical but I was thinking like why not why not give it a shot why not there's nothing to lose I I don't I'm not that into vegetables anyways so I remember I was doing this keto and I was like having like this um this what can you say? I did this smoothies like I put this out of those this kale and everything in it and I thought it was like really good but I didn't feel any effect. So that was strange because I thought I was going to get this effect but I didn't get anything if you know what I mean. Um I was starting this and I was okay I could just keep this going for like one month and then let's see what how it goes and if I like it I would do it more. So the first thing I realized like I just like started to lose a lot of weight like this, you know. I went from 92 kilos to like 84 in like three weeks. Yeah. Right. And I was just eating like normal food. It's not like or I just eating the car. But yeah, I would just I would just wait. I went down straight and then I've been like on 184 kilos like since that day and I've been like whipped and like no like muscles on my body. You just feel like Yeah. You just feel like strong and you feel like you're sharp and you have like feel like higher testosterone. And I also been having like um problem with with acne like pimples on my body and different places but that's is improving and I've been doing carnivore for like seven or eight months now but it's starting to improve. So it it takes some times. Yes. And I also used to have like a dental problems. I used to spend a lot of money on going to the dentist to fix like holes because I was eating like yeah sugar like if you use like a lot of fruits and stuff but that went away. So then you also get like this maybe like a stronger draw if you know what I mean. Mhm. Or like because you're always eating that steak. So maybe your jaw is getting stronger from eating that uh Yeah. juicy meat. Yeah. So that was it I guess. So yeah. So I'm not having like a story where I'm cured cancer or anything or I'm like a top athlete but uh I use it for chess and helps for brain performance. I think that's um part of the tool. Yes. Yeah definitely. So when you when you switched when you switch to I mean well the thing is too I mean you already you did fix your health you were having health issues you had you you and then you started losing weight you started improving your health. You got rid of acne. Um you so those are actually all significant health improvements. and then having your brain turn uh you know turn on even more is is obviously very good as well. So when when did you go full carnivore and and what sort of differences did you see in your chest performance at that point? Um that's a good question. No, I just feel like you get like um you feel like your brain is on fire. Can I say like you feel like okay if you're just sitting home and relax okay but then starting to play your chess and then you feel like your brain is just lighting up you feel like it's a like a light [Music] hole in your head and then you just starting to play and then yeah just play but like I don't know if count is the best if you just want to play like blitz and play like half an hour because then maybe it's a little bit advantage to have like high glucose level or I don't know but if you're playing like chess tournaments like for like one week. It's so important to have like the concentration and just have the steady energy because you're only like one mistake away from losing the game and then that kind of sucks, you know, and like if you just lose one one like lose one piece in one game, you can like ruin your whole tournament because there's a lot of people fighting for the top spot. Yeah. All right. Sorry about that. We're having some um internet issues, but looks like we're good now. So, um, Alexandra, so you're saying that you're saying that when you went carnivore, then you were able to concentrate, you were able to win, uh, one of these big tournaments. Um, is that did there So, then did your ranking go up at all when you were switching to carnivore? Did you see like a an objective sort of improvement from that regard? Yeah. Yeah, I did. So, yeah, that what it is. And, um, yeah, I feel like it's taking me to next next level. I can like play chess like for a couple of hours. Like usually I've been playing and then you just feel like the insulin is like crashing. Then you kind of like you can only play for two hours. But I think with karma you can just play as much as you want probably. Yeah, without getting too tired. So that's a big advantage I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. So yeah, at the regular day maybe it's not that big advantage because you then you just play like local tournaments for like one day but then you play like the major ones then you play like for one week or two weeks maybe and it's like so many hours and then you need like the steady energy and like the Yeah, stay focused. Yeah. But I also think it's important with like the testosterone levels when your testosterone levels is going up and you feel like more competitive and you really want to beat the guy instead of just agreeing to a draw or playing like more can you say like more not so aggressive maybe. Yeah. And maybe it's like advantage because you can play like sometimes like shorter games that takes like a longer time because then there's like a longer room for opponent to make a mistake. That's what you can do. Imagine if you're playing like rugby and then you're playing rugby for like six hours instead of one and then you have like more endurance than your opponent like that helps. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, also like doing creatin, take creatine like supplements, that also helps. That's really great for brain performance. You just feel like Yeah. Yeah. Hey everyone, really happy to announce a new sponsor for the show and for everybody down in Australia, Stockman Steaks, who are delivering high quality grass-fed and finished pasture-raised beef and other meats, flash frozen and vacuum sealed to your door. Something I've been enjoying a lot of myself recently as well. They also have a great range of specialty items such as highfat keto mints and carnivore beef and organs mints with liver, kidneys, and beef heart as well. So, use code chaffy today for a free order of beef mints or another specialty gift along with your order at stockmanstakess.com.au and I'll see you over there. Thanks, guys. No, that makes sense. I mean, there's a lot of creatine in uh red meat especially, but it's your brain uses a lot of creatine. It's really good for, you know, energy performance in your brain. And u actually they've had recent uh studies with uh concussion postconussion uh syndrome where they um give people highdose creatine and they get a lot of um improvements in the concussion recovery as well. So yeah that's makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. No, because when you really like keep playing like the young guys because like people in my age like I'm 36 so like they get like children and wife and everything and then they kind of like don't play anymore. But when you're playing like these young dudes they have like more testosterone so then you need to keep up with doing other stuff. Mhm. So you do what you do to survive I guess. Yeah definitely. Yeah. Well sounds like it's working as well which is great. Yeah. Yeah. So, how often you playing chess now? Uh, I try to play like a little bit every day, but not so often I get to play like um like okay if if I'm not working and I'm sending my fing to kindergarten and my wife is in another room and have like total peace because it's you need like the concentration concentration like I said because what can you say like you you you just lose when you do like mistakes or get disturbed. So then you just need like the focus mode and yeah so when you're playing like in the big tournaments like you're not allowed to use electronics that's a big part of it because of the cheating um like because people cheat and then you're not allowed to talk to other people too. So then it's just you and the board and the other person you're playing against for like five hours. M so that's a kind of interesting um thing to experience like especially in these days with everybody having mobile phone or anything. Yeah. But in a playing hall it can be like 500 people playing but nobody has electronics nobody is talking and just uh just totally quiet. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a it's sort of a a relic of the past, isn't it? where people actually had an attention span and could could focus on something longer than 13 seconds at a time and didn't have to like flick from real to real to real on TikTok and just rot your brain. Um, yeah, that that's yeah, probably uh very helpful as well for your for your brain in general being able to just concentrate on something on one thing for hours at a time. Yeah. But like now these days like technology has coming come so far. So like if you sit on internet you can just like like press like next button next button and you can get just get in the new moves all the time and it's like really easy to get the good interest because you can just like you can if you're like the patient you do do the train the same patterns all over. But before we got like the internet and before I had like this um technology you like I think chess was more better then because then there was just knowledge that was passed down from other generations. Yes. So then like the the Russian chess school they were like the Russians were or former Soviets they were like dominating chess for like 60 years and they had like all the world champions except Bobby Fischer. Mhm. Um and that was like passing the passing this um knowledge over the generations. So that was interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We sort of you know sort of mentioned offline that you know Bobby Fisher was a bit bit of of a recluse and an odd character and you know as as a result you know he just sort of disappear. He would just disappear. no one knew where he was and then just come out of hiding and go and you know blow out a you know world you know master from Russia or something like that and then they go back into hiding and disappear but you know Russians were were there teaching the next generations and passing on this information you know so where you know was was Bobby Fischer like training the next generation of American uh chess no he was like a loner that's it yeah I think like America's like more like individual individualistic society but I think The Russians had like this estate program that like if you become a grandmaster, you're kind of set for life you can say, right? So like they just have like these big groups and they were like spending all the money on this because to show that the west that they were like superior with brain force and like chess was like I thought it be like instrument to show how smart you are. Yeah. Yeah. And there's like there was like a strange thing in chess like okay if you play rugby and play I don't know the best player in rugby but if you ask him he was he would say like I've been training a lot and doing like all this exercises and stuff but in chess you're not supposed to train. It's like some strange thing but I train you know I do my best to keep going up the levels but yeah in chess is like about I guess it's like some status stuff to be like not always smart. Mhm. Yeah. But just just like culture stuff now. Yeah. So yeah, now the Indians are getting along the Indian trust players. Yeah. They're like dominating now. So they're playing like one guys like playing for them for the big title now these days. And Yeah. So they're like have like five young people is like the getting the tech taking the next next level. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it would have been nice that you have someone who had a particular genius like like Bobby Fischer to like try to try to teach other people like how his brain worked and how he approached things. Otherwise, you know, you study his games and his approaches, but that's not really the same thing as asking him how do you approach this? How do you think about this? How would you do this? And actually having Yeah. Yeah. teaching people, you know, that would that would sort of be nice. But I guess that's why America doesn't have as many grand masters as uh Russia and the USSR. Well, the thing is like America is one of the top world now and like these days because they have like one billionaire called Rex Sink and he like has kind of bought all the best players you can say but like other players like Fabiano Coran for example is like top four. is like formerly from Italia, Italia, but now we like moved to America so we can like play represent America. So you have like all the best players but they're not like original Americans you can say, right? Yeah. Training up new Americans or or just doing their own thing. Um I think there's a steady flow of players because it's so easy to get good these days with all the technology and uh with just using like these different programs and um yeah but so I think in chess like you can get to a certain level and then it's like I think it's more about genetics more than anything like how good you can really become like there are many people who train just as just as just as just as hard as Leo Messi or Ronaldo or I know the best rug player but there's only one Messi on one Ronaldo but I think it's more like about genetics genetics than anything like everybody can work hard everybody can have like this right program next to them and everybody can have that but it's just about the talent I think this yeah so there's like analogy just like you have a car and you can like do a lot of stuff with your car like fix the tires maybe like make it more aerodynamic like do a lot of stuff but the engine is the engine you know so they generally get before with the engine you got. Yeah. Yeah. Like to see how good you can become. I think I think that's um value in itself like you can do a lot of sports and be like okay or you can just try to be really good in one one thing like try to push it as hard as you can for that. Yeah. Yeah. But um yeah anyways except the test in like my life I'm have this tourist company like I told you about so taking tours every day for to the mountains and then it's important to have like this um have like good health in your body and have a don't have pain and don't have like inflammation because when you're working like walking like 10 kilometers or 15 kilometers every day for four times a week there's like a lot of pressure on your body especially when you're getting older. So, yeah. So, that helps defense level. Yeah. Like, at least it helps with like the pain and information. Yeah. Good. So, you finding that um you know, since you went carnivore, that's it's easier to to do that now, too. Yeah. Much much easier. Much like two different roles, I think. So, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. But like funny when you tell people about this car, but people just look at you like you're you're a ghost. people just think look at you and think you're weird or something. Well, I think I think you got you guys have a a bit of an advantage because you you've got the you know the Nordic background. You just say, "Yeah, I'm on the Viking diet." Don't even call it diet. It's called the Viking diet. He's like, "Yeah, I know. I'm on the Viking diet." Just eating Yeah. Just meat and fish. Like that's it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. We get on that, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And I think in Norway like we really count that is really up north and it's like can get winters can get really rough here. So it's like only like 4% of the country you can have like agriculture. Yeah. So from the history it's like not been easy to live here and that's why why we are not so many people because you don't have like this access to energy. So I think like people who are from Norway are usually like really strong and have like good genetics. Yeah. Like we have like Horan if you know him like the best football player player and go and we have Norway is like the country in the world that has the most amount of Olympic gold medals in the winter sports. Imagine that. The most medals in um win sports. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. So we have like we're dominating everything that got something to do with skiing. Yeah. Nice. So we get like at least like 15 gold medals like every winter winter Olympics. So I think that's like about um maybe more about the carnivore diet and about what can you say like the way we were living here like we live used to living in rough areas and we didn't have like access to the agriculture so then we had to live off the meat of the land for example. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also like you've been telling about it's like the last ice age for example and it was definitely like a lot of ice here and like in the winter it's like three or four months with pretty cold and bad weather especially like other places in Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. I mean, that's the thing. If you can't grow crops and there's nothing really to forage, what's left for you? You know, it's meat. And uh yeah, you know, that's that's that's why it's a bit it's a bit funny then when people say that you you can't just it's not sustainable to live on meat. It's like, well, we've been doing it for millions of years, so I don't I don't know where you're getting that from. And there are people alive right now, entire gener entire civilizations that that do that right now because they live in those extreme conditions for one like the Inuit and people in you know northern you know parts of the world in Arctic Circle. Obviously in western countries you can get food shipped in but there's still people living a bit more um in a more traditional manner. And I think in Finland they've got like native uh like reindeer herders and things like that. In in Siberia they have the native net who are caribou herders. Actually had a buddy of mine I played rugby with um he was on this show called uh Last Man Standing and they had took all these athletes like from America and England and they just went to all these it was with National Geographic and the BBC. It was a really cool project. They went to all these cool different um areas and uh you know into Africa and Papa Newu Guinea and they went to the you know Siberia to the Net. They went to Tibet. They did all these sorts of things and uh and they competed in the athletic endeavor of that local um tribe or or region. And uh and they were actually with the the I believe it was yeah the Nette in in Siberia and these massive um herds of caribou like you know thousands of of head and they were you know running all around like Jesus you know they would like split around them and like just like thousands of animals like charging around you and uh that's all they ate. They just ate meat the whole time and they had these like you know these old little old ladies that were like in their 90s or you know one lady was um you know there was actually saw a picture of one of these ladies. She was out there you know hurting these reindeer and you know she was 99. It's just like I guess you have to take her word for it but you know we're taking we're taking the people in the blue zones word for it as well. So you know if you trust that then you have to trust this too. and she's still out there working, just doing her thing at 99. And um you know what are they eating? They're in Siberia. They're in northern Siberia. Like that's my true interest from it. Yeah, that's it. And so yeah, and then they then they do great. And you live in those areas during the winter. If you can't survive on meat, then you know, especially before agriculture when we're storing grain, then what what else are you going to do? you know during an ice age in the Arctic Circle it's of course but I have like a dream like I'm into fasting if you know about fasting is I've been doing like for one fast day fasting or like three or four days like to get like the auto autophagy and like the regeneration of stem cells and you know about this I don't know I think you're a little bit skeptic to oh no more no um as far as regeneration of you know autophagy and stem cells, things like that. Um, from what I can find, it's um it's mostly due to to getting your insulin down. And so, if you're if you're ketogenic, um, you know, like like a carnivore diet would be, then your insulin will come down and you'll you'll kick off autophagy and stem cell uh production as well. So, you get you get a lot of those benefits already. In fact, you might get the exact same amount. It's um there there are a lot of studies on on um fasting mimicking diets. You know, they say that well, there's all these benefits from fasting, but that's hard for people to do. So, what about a diet that mimics the metabolic state you'd be in fasting? Does that give the same benefits? And so, fasting mimicking diet is just a ketogenic diet. You're getting yourself in that that metabolic state that you'd be in when you're fasting. And so uh you know in well all the ones that I've found and obviously I haven't read every study but uh they the ones looking on fasting mimicking diet comparing that to the benefits you get from fasting they they've all found um the same benefits um from you get the same benefits for doing the carnivore or just having like a regular standard American diet maybe no from um from being keto in ketosis or on a ketogenic diet you get the same benefits as as fasting. Yeah. Okay. Um yeah. No, you definitely won't get that from a standard standard diet. Yeah. No. Yeah. Or and you wouldn't Yeah. But anyways, like I have like a dream. So if I've been like I like looking myself like like not been eating like food for like four days and then I want to be like have have a rifle and going to the forest and look for something to kill because then it's like you haven't been eating for all these days and imagine you feel like so sharp and like so like feel so alive. you feel like you're you're animal and then it's just your animal like who is going to live who's going to who's going to die like you're living this safe places and there's not no problems everybody has like okay life so I think it's nice idea at least to have like to put your body in like some kind of risk and yeah maybe it sounds stupid but I think it's like yeah interesting idea at least like not eat for like your many days and then you go out to hunt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you're into hunting or I I want to start going. I haven't really gone hunting much. I um I had some friends that were really into hunting and uh I wanted to go out with them, but I just haven't sort of made it out. Everything's just a bit busy. I don't know the rules of hunting in Australia. I think you have to, you know, know somebody who has a farm and be able to go out there and you can sort of hunt on the land. Yeah. And um so I think you can hunt kangaroo and and things like that. And I know people who hunt kangaroo, but you know, back in America um you know, I had I have friends that that hunt, but just you haven't been back in in so long that uh that I haven't done it. But I I think it's it's something that I think it's a skill that's good to have. And um and you know and if you are eating this way or any way, you should know where your food's coming from. You should know how to get it yourself. If you are going to take an animal's life to uh to you know to to help yours and and so that you and your family can live, then you know you should you should know where that's coming from. understand the life and death cycle and and death and rebirth and and and be part of it, you know, not not be squeamish and say, "Okay, well, this is this is part of it." And if I'm not willing to do it myself, then you know, you know, I should, you know, maybe I shouldn't be doing it, you know, and um but I think it's um I think it's important that people do it regardless of whether or not they want to go hunting, but uh just from a health standpoint, but I think it's I think it's a good idea to to understand that and and understand that be in touch with that the life cycles. I mean those something so important to to all of humanity for thousands and thousands of years was understanding that those life cycles and the importance of the life cycles and death and rebirth and how important it was that these these animals um you know that they didn't voluntarily give up their life but they they did lose their life so that we could live and our our ancestors could live and then beget us. And we have all these stories like the in native um Native American traditions they have uh stories about the um was it the uh like the buffalo's wife or something like that whereas um you know they they would scare a herd of buffalo over a cliff and they would all die at the bottom of the cliff and they would that's that's the food that the entire tribe would eat for the whole year and that's that's how people lived. And then one year they they tried to get him on the cliff, but they would just turn right at the last second and turn the last second and turn the last and they wouldn't go. And and the um the daughter of the chief, you know, asked the the chief of the buffalo like, "Why are you being so selfish? If you guys don't go over the cliff, then then our f our people will die, you know, and then we won't won't have we won't be able to survive the winter. We won't be able to to make it." And the you know, the chief buffalo said, "Well, what about you know, my people and my family? You don't you don't care about us. You know, these are our families and our children and uh and you don't even dance for us. You don't even welcome our spirits back so that we can be renewed and we can be um you know uh uh reincarnated and um you know, so why why why should we make that sacrifice for you if you don't you know respect that you know respect that and try to help us get back um to our families? And she said, "Okay." Okay. So, they made this deal and um you know and they would they would do this buffalo dance and they did this they taught her the special dance and they would that would honor their spirits and that would let their spirits be go back and be reincarnated and so they die in death and rebirth and all these sorts of things. And I think she then had to go marry the king of the buffalo or something like that. I'm not sure about that one but but that sort of thing is just it's just understanding and respecting that life. say, "Hey, this is these are living creatures and they they don't want to die either and they have this, you know, sense of family as well and u we need to respect that and and pray for their spirits and and um you know, respect the sacrament, not just be like, oh yeah, whatever. You know, it's just a piece of meat or just a piece of broccoli or something like that. We really should respect, you know, our food and know where it's coming from. people used to be so in touch. You know, they used to give thanks and and um you know, say grace before every meal and and now we're just eating. Who cares and we're just in front of the TV and it's just like it's just it's not deal. It's like Yeah. It's just um Yeah. It's I think we've lost a lot by by doing that. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's a lot of value to hunting. Like you don't hunt just uh for fun, you know, you hunt for eating the food and Yeah. Yeah, but I heard like I had some tourists in my company like from Australia and they said like there's like plague in Australia with all the kangaroos and like the kangaroos are like big. They're like 110 kilos. So it's like it's it's not like illegal to kill them. I heard but if they you hit it with the car and they die, it's not that bad if you take the meat. I don't know. Yeah, I just heard was talking about this. So kind of what they did is like they had like one kangaroo a year or something. So then you're saving a lot of money. Yeah. Like you like 110 kilos is like food for whole family for a year. I think it's a lot. Yeah. You get a lot of a lot of meat anyway. And um yeah, you might you might need a couple kangaroos to get a whole family. But um depends on how Yeah. Yeah. If I'm if I'm I'm sort of put down about a kilo if I'm working out a lot, maybe two kilos a day. Um, you wow. Yeah. Oh, but you're big. If I'm if I'm working out a lot, you know, so if I'm I'm, you know, lifting weights a lot or or, you know, back when I was, you know, playing rugby and lifting weights all the time, like if I if I ate um I, you know, if I was sedentary and just doing my thing, you know, a kilo a day was was perfect for me. But then when But you eat like once a day or Yeah, usually. Yeah. Okay. But you need like two kilos and one meat and one No, usually usually one at a time. And then and then if I was if I was lifting weights more and and um my body wanted more uh food to to put on muscle um then I would um I would need to eat twice a day. So I get two two kilos a day in two different meals and then and that was usually that yeah then I could put on weight really easily. Really easily. Okay. No, because I've been struggling with that. I like when I started car I just like went down like but I not been able to like gain like more kilos because you eat your beef and then you're full and then you don't want to eat some more and you have like a lot of butter and stuff but still like you just eat get full and like I don't know know how you can eat more than being full. Yeah, it's um yeah, you just got to eat more than once a day. Like if you're if you're, you know, out hiking and doing all that stuff, I mean, I'm sure your body would would ask for more food. Um, you just have to give it to it. So, if I'm working out, if I'm lifting weights, but I'm still only having, you know, the same amount that I would have when I'm sedentary, like 1 kilo a day, you know, I'll get stronger. I'll get more solid. I'll get, you know, more more defined and in better shape, but I I won't like bulk up, you know, like and put on a huge amount of muscle. I I you do have to eat, you know, you have to get that food in you and and um so I typically will you just you still just listen to your hunger signals, you know, I you don't have to force feed yourself or anything. Um you certainly don't need carbs to do that either. Oh, you need a calorie caloric surplus. Like where do you go to school? Surplus means excess to demand. It's a surplus. You don't need it. Yeah. Right. Of course not. So by definition, you don't need a surplus. And so that surplus is just going to go to fat. And so you don't need a surplus. You need enough, right? So you need to eat enough meat and you just you get enough. Your body will tell you how much that is. And you know, and then you you'll put on muscle. Then your body just ups. Yeah. You just slam on muscle. As long as you're stimulating your muscles to grow. If you're lifting weights, doing anorobic work, you know, hard hiking, you you'll build up your legs for sure. Um you want to put on muscle though, you you need to stimulate those those muscles. And then you need to eat enough, you know, so you need to lift weights, do sprinting, you know, full body sort of anorobic exercises where you're putting in a lot of work and, you know, and um and tiring yourself out and you know, doing something that's so so intense that you eventually you're going to build up enough lactic acid that you just you need to take a break, you know, or cool it a bit. Um but yeah, but what I have noticed uh sorry that when I went I've been going from like 98 kilos to 84 but I never go to the I never weigh myself because like a line doesn't do it. So like you said so but I didn't like lose strength anything like can still like lift the same amount of kilos even if I'm like 40 14 kilos less. Okay. So yeah that's the difference I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you're still lifting the same weight and you have that strength to body uh body mass ratio, you know, it's uh that's significant. And uh you know, if you keep lifting and you keep pushing yourself and you keep eating, you'll put on weight. You'll put on you'll put on muscle more easily than you than you ever have before. Um yeah, you know, it's uh you know, some people put on muscle more easily than others, but you know, whatever wherever you're at, it'll be easier to put on muscle for you compared to what you've done before. Yeah, but I wanted to ask you another thing and like like at least in like talk to people about the carnivore, you just people look at you like you're a ghost or like they just look at the strange but how can you get like convince people that carnivore is the best for health like like strange like if I meet people with like chronic illnesses and I said like you should try that and they're not like even willing to like entertain the thought. Mhm. And then they're going to the doctor and they give me some pill and then that doesn't help obviously. Yeah. Well, if it's if it's someone just out in nature, you know, and they and they come up and they're, "Oh, wait, wait, you only eat meat?" I was like, "Yeah, you know, just do it. It's the the healthiest way to go and wait, what?" Then they usually have questions. So say, "Well, don't you you know, what about all the nutrients and plants?" Or, "What about vegetables? You don't eat vegetables." And I will make something, you know, make a bit of a joke be like like, "No, I don't eat vegetables. you know, they're super bad for you and they're like, "Wait, what? Hold on a second." You shocking said, and um, you know, and then they're like, "Wait, wait, I didn't think that." And then they'll they'll, you know, then the conversation will go from there. And, you know, there's certain there's always there's always a certain pattern, you know, like, "Don't you need vegetables?" "No, they're bad for you." Why are they bad for you? Well, they have toxins and, you know, all these sorts of things. And you lay that case out and people go, "Okay, well, but what about fiber?" Okay. Well, fiber you don't actually need it and you know it causes and can cause these other problems and um you know I mean 70% of the animals in the world are carnivores. They don't need fiber. They go to the bathroom just fine and I go to the bathroom just fine. And then the net go to the bathroom just fine. So the Inuit and the Messiah and and so on and so and then well what about cholesterol? What about heart disease? So it's all it's all very predictable stuff. Yeah. Could just pick up. Yeah. And so you know you just have you you know and you just know the answers. you know, and so you get more streamlined at at answering it so you can get sort of, you know, quicker and quicker at uh delivering that. Um, when I'm when I'm talking to a patient, and the other thing is too is when you're when you're in good shape and and you feel good and you're healthy, you know, you're you're an example of that as well, you know, because I get I get people at the hospital who are not in very good shape. You know, they're not very healthy, they're overweight, they're not they don't look like they work out. maybe they probably work out more than I do and you know I you know look like I'm in you know workout more than they do and um and that sort of shocks people as well. Um, you know, during co I was I m I was very low body fat percentage and very muscular and lean and you know people were were saying well how do you I mean how do you you know that's just because you work out all the time you know you're just all time and I mean like it's co the gyms are closed I I haven't worked out three months like what the no that that's no of course you have you know you you you work out like twice a day and I was just like I've done push-ups twice in the last three months. Like that's, you know, and and that's when they're like, "Wait, what?" It's like, "This is all diet." Like, "This is this is just what your body does when you're eating proper food." Then they start thinking, they're like, "Yeah, because some people are like, "Well, you're going to get fat and sick." And then they look at me and they just go, "Well, I guess maybe not because you you know that's probably not true, you know, because yeah, you're an example of that and you're in good shape." Then, you know, then they they sort of, you know, see that that well maybe that that that's not as as accurate because it's just it's just hearsay. It's just people saying these things, they've repeated it for decades, but then you look at people doing it and they're like, "Yeah, okay. Well, that that's direct evidence to the contrary." If it's if it's a patient, you know, that's that's a bit more straightforward because you'll bring them in, you'll talk to them about their different health issues. If it's a new patient coming in, talk to them about their different health issues, the medications they're on, the troubles that they're dealing with, and why they came in. And, you know, then we do like a big deep dive into the blood work and see what's going on at at a metabolic and hormonal level. and and nutritional level as well. And um and you can just see, I mean, these these things are they're all off and they don't feel well. And I can say, listen, your your insulin is five times what it should be. Fasting insulin is five times what it should be. Your leptin is 20 times what it should be. This is this is a sign of of a damaged metabolism. Your hormones are all out of balance. Your your nutrients are all in the floor. You know, this this is coming from your diet. You know, these are these are important things you need to focus on. your insulin's out of control, you need to cut out carbohydrates. to tell them about the dangers of car excess carbohydrates and how and excess insulin and how this affects hundreds of different processes in your body like autophagy and and suppressing stem cells and then you but how can you do like do that if you're like you're a doctor and you like employed from the hospital then you like because you have like if you have this approach but the main general guidelines saying that you should eat like all this ultrarocessed junk. So how do you like process that? No, I mean the thing is is that I mean I have my own my own practice. So I'm I'm my own boss. Oh, your own. Yeah. Yeah. So if I'm at if I'm at the hospital and doing um you know neurosurgery but when I was a registar there um uh you know that was that was you know a bit more difficult you know because uh yes there's you know if I if I talk to them in in that capacity then that looks like you know the department or the hospital is giving that advice. So, anytime I would do that, I would I would try to do it. I would just come in on my own time and I would talk to them and say, "Look, this is my personal opinion on these things. Um, you know, this isn't coming from the department or the hospital, but you know, you have this issue and like here are all these studies that show benefits to changing your diet to a ketogenic, you know, sort of approach and u and that and that can help you. So, you'll just I think it would be worthwhile for you to look into that yourself." Um, so that's the sort of thing that that I've done in the past. But, you know, it's um that's a bit bit different because, you know, I'm I'm just a member on a team there and if the you know, the person in charge is just like, "Yeah, I don't I don't want you to you to make those recommendations, you know, I have to I have to respect that, you know. um if it's someone who's been diagnosed with cancer and this and I know that you know this there's something that can help them. It's not I don't think that's ethical or moral for me to just not say anything. I mean that's that's sort of akin to you know the people in in you know Nazi Germany saying well I was just following orders. I was following I was told to do this I had to do it. uh well you know people died as a result of that and so you know I I I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I didn't tell these people that and so I would go and you know on my own time be like look is my own time you know you just here are some resources here are some papers you know look into this yourself and see if that's something that that might help you and u you know and you can do this with all the all the different treatments it's not it's not an eitheror just do this along with that and and you know it's is it's just an extra arrow in your quiver, you know, and uh but yeah, I mean I I can't I can't not tell somebody with cancer that there's um there's more that they can do because they ask me they ask me directly say well is there that I can do you know what what can I do and um you know to help this and and oncologists and people well no just just go to your chemo and do that and just you know do the treatments and that's it there's nothing else you can do it doesn't matter what you eat or drink and you know go party have you know drink and do drugs or whatever, it doesn't matter. Of course, it matters. It's It matters hugely. You know, if you're drinking all the time, you're just not going to be as healthy. You're not going to do as well, period. It doesn't matter what you're doing. And so, and and it's really defeating for them because they they they they're asking to be to be able to be a part of their treatment. There's something that, you know, have some sort of control in their life. And they they feel very out very much out of control when they get a diagnosis like that. and and they um and so they're they're they're they're asking, "What can I do? How can I how can I have a part in this?" And you're just saying, "No, no, no. There's nothing you can do." And they're like, "I guess there's there's nothing I can do." And their heads always drop. They always say like, "Well, you know, of course there's something you can do. You know, just being as healthy as you can, eating the healthiest that you can, you know, your body's going to work better, your immune system is going to work better, and you're going to be able to to deal with the chemo and this issue better." And it, you know, it may not cure you, but it it's it can absolutely help, you know, and um and and you might as well because like when you're dealing with something like aggressive cancers like, you know, glyopblasto, like there's nothing you you just you just got to throw the kitchen sink at it and just of course, you know, just throw everything at it and see what sticks. And so, you know, I think that I think that it's uh important to say that sort of thing. So, you know, getting people, you know, when you come when you see people in in clinic and in practice and they're unwell and they need help, you know, it's a very highly motivated patient population, you can and you make that argument and you show them the, you know, the the evidence behind what you're talking about. Um, you show them studies and you you you tell them, you show them the physiology and how this works and why it works. Then it's um you get a very highly motivated population. They're just like, "Right, yep, that's what I'm doing." Okay. And they get into it and then they start seeing all these benefits and they're like, "Yeah, absolutely. I never want to stop." I mean, I have I have cancer patients right now who come in just for the ketogenic metabolic therapy side of things. I help optimize their their health and and you know, so that they can be as healthy as they can dealing with this major major issue. And yeah, at least so far people have been having very very good results and uh and doing very well. So that's what you do. Yeah, sorry. What if you have like Okay, imagine if you've been living in like um really unhealthy for like 50 years and then you start do the carnivore and then you kind of get healthy. But don't you have like damage from the last 50 years or like all those cells just renew themsel and get healthy or how does that work? Well, you're certainly going to have damage, but you're you're going to have more damage if you don't stop and you're never going to have chance to heal. And so, but does that last with you? The old one. Sorry. Like the the last like the first 50 years does that like stick to your body or your cells renew as like new cells or Yeah, the body's pretty amazing. You can you can actually recover from a lot of damage and it can take time. But I mean I you know I have I have patients you know 60 you know 60 something year old women uh who reverse osteoporosis you know in in a year or less by eating just a strict carnivore diet and uh exercising lifting weights and and things. So you know that's uh that's a dramatic improvement. So, you know, they, you know, it can take time though, you know, and that's that's the thing that people need to understand. You know, there's no shortcuts. You walk 10 miles into the woods, you're walking 10 miles out, you know, so it's not like you just, oh, I'm carnivore now, so everything's perfect. Well, no. You know, you have high blood pressure, you have diabetes, you have other chronic conditions. It will it will take time to undo the damage of of 60 years of eating the wrong thing and damaging your body. And uh but you know it good thing is it doesn't take 60 years to to get that healing. Now there is such a thing as as damage done and some of that damage can be permanent and but the body can heal from so much. It's um it's it's actually quite remarkable. I mean I I've seen neurological recoveries you decades after a stroke. You know, there's a guy named Dave Mack who I've um had on my podcast and he's been on mine and uh and he he's been doing carnivore and he has over 850 interviews. He just interviews all these people have had these amazing stories and he had a stroke uh 30 years ago and had you know severe right-sided weakness where he was limping and and had a really bad limp and was close. Yeah. very very very weak on on you know you know the arm and leg on the right side and um he you know had done ketogenic diets and Atkins and different sorts of things but he was a very stable neurology on his right side and you know couldn't really go up and down stairs very well would fall uh very very easily trip and lose his balance and then he went carnivore and two months into it his wife mentioned to him he's like hey you're not limping anymore what's going on He's like, "Wait, are you serious?" Like, "No, videotape me." He's videotaping me. He's just walking normally and now he can run up and down stairs, whereas before he was just clinging onto the rail with his left hand to just desperately try to not fall. And he's made this massive neurological recovery 30 years later, which is just really what you know, any textbook would tell you that's impossible. Of course, it happened, you know. Yeah. and and you have a video tape. He has videotapes of himself, you know, walking with his daughter and he's got this pronounced limp and multiple videos of this is just that's how he was and then all of a sudden, you know, now he's walking normal. He doesn't have a limp. So, I've seen massive recoveries and he's not he's not 100%. You know, his his right side is still weaker than the left, but it improved enough that it's it doesn't it doesn't slow him down anymore. He's not falling. Yeah, but it still sticks with you. Say again. It still sticks with you. Like, okay, like you still have some like related problems, but like you can fix maybe 90% or something like Yeah. Yeah, exactly. For example, yeah, you still have some residual weakness. Hey guys, just want to take a second to thank our sponsor, Carnivore Bar. I don't promote many products because honestly, all you need to be healthy is to just eat meat. 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But there are people in the honeymoon period where they first get diagnosed with uh type 1 diabetes and then they go on it and they can actually, you know, before those cells are fully dead yet, they can actually pull back from the brink. And I actually have a patient that has just done that. She was um she went to the hospital with diabetic ketoacidosis um uh two months ago and you know was very sick. when she got released from the hospital, her husband, who is a patient of mine, brought her in and wanted to get like a whole battery of tests done and and go into this and, you know, think about doing carnivore and and I was telling I was like, "Look, I think it was a good idea. You know, we were already seeing, you know, reports of people that are able to reverse their type 1 diabetes if they catch it early enough and you're, you know, you're a week out from it. So, you know, let's let's just get on this." And so, she did. And she went fully ketogenic, mostly carnivore. Sometimes she had a bit of a slip here at some, you know, nuts or something like that and and and it would actually just completely mess up her her um blood sugar and it had a you know was linked to a monitor on both of their phones. So all of a sudden he'd be at work and sees her blood sugar like spikes up to 17. He's just like, "Hey, what are you eating? What are you doing?" You know, getting on her. And so, you know, she she did this and she started feeling a lot better. I mean, at first her her blood sugar was all over the place. She was using all sorts of different uh doses of of uh insulin and then she had to go and she would go too low and then she'd have to eat a bunch of sugar and drink sodas to get it back up and then more insulin and it was just playing that stupid game and um you know and then she just went on a ketogenic carnivore diet and that just leveled right off and so she would just take a very predictable amount of insulin and then um it was getting more and more controlled. she didn't need as much insulin anymore to use um to to get the same result. And so she well how do we how do we check if this is working like okay well we check your ceptide which is you know molecule is so insulin comes together with ceptide then when it gets released it breaks off. So you have insulin and ceptide but if you just inject insulin if you just inject insulin you're only getting the insulin so you won't get ceptide. So you tested insulin but you also test the ceptide. So she had normal levels of insulin but she also had a bit of of ceptide. Okay. So her body is making insulin still. It's at the lower edge of normal but it was still there. And so we just kept going and then I saw her a month later. Now she's off all insulin and she has perfect blood sugar control and her uh insulin is actually perfect and she has ceptide and she has more ceptide now. Now she's up in the middle of the range instead of the bottom end of the range. So she's making insulin again. Her body has recovered and um you know as long as she keeps eating the way that she's eating it it she will probably be fine and uh be able to to to live normally. Um and uh so you know certain things you can catch early enough. You know if somebody has uh a developmental issue like autism and you catch it while they're a child and adolescent when the brain is still growing and developing. you can actually you can actually catch up on a lot of things and it may not be exactly as it were if you were eating you know exactly the way that you you know should be biologically and didn't have any sort of insults or injuries or anything like that that um or or chemical exposures that may have p you know precipitated this. But it can help and it can it can help the the brain sort of develop more um appropriately and uh you know the younger you get somebody with autism or another developmental issue the better you're going to get. Like if you got crooked teeth and a small jaw or something like that and you get them eating properly like your your facial bone structure will start actually growing in a more normal fashion. Yeah. And I thought that myself. Yeah. And um if you're an adult, you know, these these things are solid. Now you're going to change your physical appearance because you're going to get cutaneous inflammation and uh and fat and things like that alpha there. So your face is going to trim up and you're going to get more sort of a chiseled sort of appearance, but when you're developing your your bone structure will start to change and improve. M so you know and then if you're you know you have an adult who has autism or a developmental issue they're going to get improvements but it may it may not be that they can undo all of that and if someone has a severe uh learning disability I I know I have patients that have uh children with severe learning disabilities like dyslexia or um no like like like um autism or um or maybe like a brain injury like a traumatic IC brain injury um you know from like an accident or something like that as a child and um you know like a car accident or something like that and um uh or you know uh some a brain injury of some other other description and you know they will they will be the way they've been for a long time and then all of a sudden they change their diet and and there's you know it's not going to all of a sudden undo all of that damage But, you know, you get these very positive improvements. Sometimes things calm down, a bit more settled. They they they understand things a bit a bit better. Um, they're able to communicate a little better. Um, you know, one one patient's daughter was completely non-verbal, hadn't spoken in years since since the accident. And all of a sudden she's sort of making you know sort of grunting noising and trying sort of you see like she's appearing to try to speak and try to communicate even though it's not really u you fully formed there's still that attempt and there hasn't been an attempt in years you know so you know things like that you know you can see you can you can still see improvements even though they they you know it may not be as much as you would want. So there's definitely, you know, things, you know, there's definitely a thing called damage done and um you can only undo a certain amount, but some people can can undo a lot and and sometimes that that healing can be very significant and so it's just it's just a matter of um you know seeing seeing what happens and uh how you do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good answer. Yeah. But you know it can improve everybody. I mean, there's no there's never a bad time to stop eating poison, right? You know, I had um I had had a friend of mine, she's a she's a doctor here in Western Australia. She's a general practitioner and um she worked with geriatric populations and she had this gentleman who was 86 years old and he just really couldn't care for himself anymore at home and and his family couldn't care for him. And so he had to check himself into a nursing home and he basically, you know, his mind he was going there to to wait for death basically, which is a pretty grim sort of reality. And um then he he came across a carnivore diet and you know just as sort of a lastditch effort to improve his life and to get some independence back, he went on it and within three months he was back living at home independently. Wow. was working out three days a week, swimming twice a week, and he was off all medications, right? Massive improvement. Massive improvement. And and that was at 86, you know. So now this guy has has a completely new lease on life and and and many many many more uh happy, healthy years of of independence left to him. So, you know, and hopefully decades, but you know, it's uh just just getting him home and getting him improved is just amazing. You know, a friend of mine, Hal Cranmer, has nursing homes in Arizona, and he is is putting these same approaches um in with his his nursing home patients and he's getting a lot of improvements for them as well. He's actually been getting uh several of them home also. So, it's just like, yeah, there's healthy. We don't need to no need to keep mom and in the home, we can take, you know, in the nursing home, we can take her back with us, which is great. You know, that's exactly what you want. So, yeah. No, it it can help anybody at any stage. Okay. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I was going to ask you also about this about traveling because it's not so easy when you're traveling and it's like also like the social aspect about the car. It's like Yeah. Yeah, when you're out to the bar at the social event, it's like every day is not no problem because then you just buy the beef and then you just eat it and the eggs. But yeah, it's not so easy, I think, with um normal life and you meet Well, normal people, you guess. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you get used to it, you know, and you know, I I never drank during the rugby season. Well, I stopped drinking during the rugby season, you know, when I was 21. And I, you know, I just felt so much better doing that. I I played so much better that, you know, I was just like, "Yeah, I just can't do this." And so I just didn't didn't drink during the rugby season. And just everyone got used to it. I'd still go to the bar, still hang out. I was just drinking water. I was still, you know, after after the initial awkwardness of it. Um, I I got used to it and actually preferred being out sober because I could actually think. I could actually have remember conversations. I could drive home. I wasn't spending hundreds of dollars, you know, boozing and doing all that sort of stuff, which, you know, was a bit of a waste of money anyway. And um, you know, even if I didn't drink for months or even years, I would still have a very high tolerance. It would still take 15 to 20 drinks just to get me, you know, drunk. And um, don't you lose your tolerance or Sorry. Don't you lose the tolerance if you never drink? like you need like less dosages to get high or get you should. Yeah, if I did, but no, it didn't. It wasn't that I had a tolerance because I, you know, built it up from drinking so much. It's just my body just burns this stuff up really quickly and so it just doesn't affect me very much. And so, you know, I would um I would have to drink a lot and and and I hated that too because it just like it was just I knew it was causing so much damage to my body. Other people would have like four or five drinks and just having a great time. Like I I'd need 14, you know, to to get to that same level. And you're big, I think. So, yeah. Just poisoning myself and Yeah. I'm just a big guy in my good liver, I guess, you know, and so it would uh it would it would take a lot. It would cost a lot. I knew it was damaging my body and that bugged the hell out of me and um you know so yeah it it it was actually nice when I stopped drinking during the rugby season and could go out and when I got used to it yeah it was weird at first you know but after a few times going out I actually preferred it and uh yeah it was great and I I still had the same amount of fun you know I did the main thing about getting drunk is that you just you get disinhibited and you just sort of let loose and cool out and have a good time and say stupid things and make dumb jokes and and just enjoy yourself. And then all of a sudden being in that environment around other people in that spirit, I could do it too. You know, I was just I was just there having fun and there wasn't there wasn't a problem. Um traveling, you know, there's always there's unless you go to a vegan restaurant, there's always meat on the menu. You can always get something. You you can even just go to McDonald's and get the burger patties. Um they do it in a panini press. They don't use seed oils or anything like that. Burger King, they flame grill it. Um, and um, you know, so, you know, you could you could do that in a pinch. You know, it's not ideal, but it's better than nothing. And, um, you know, order like a regular plate and just eat the meat and maybe that's it. That's exactly it, you know. So, there's always something, you know, and so you order the fish, you order the chicken, you order the beef, you order whatever, and you just eat that and you just just forget the side. So, I mean, I I travel a lot and um, you know, I I don't I don't really have a problem. It's really about, you know, if you're if you're determined to do this um because this is just how you feel the best and you don't you don't want any of that stuff in your body, you know, you work around it. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like anything else, like if you if you have a good reason why not to do something, you know, it's you'll figure out, you know, how to do. But how you see in the Game of Thrones? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know what Cersei says when she blows up that building with all the like preachers and the priests? Oh, yeah. What's that? A lion doesn't care himself with the opinion of a sheep. A lion doesn't um say doesn't care himself with the opinion of a sheep. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That was kind of Yeah. Cool expression. Yeah. I was I was thinking about that when she said that. That was kind of a cool thing to say. Yeah. Like the L always used to say that like they have like different post during the series about this and they used to say it because everybody hated him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty it's pretty hard line. Uh yeah, that's the thing, you know, you just if you have a good reason why you're doing something, you know, and you have, you know, then then you'll just do it. It's not that big a deal. And you know I I you know if I'm on a plane and you know sometimes I'm on these planes for 15 hours 16 hours and and that's just in the plane in the air but you know they won't have any meals that I really want. I mean maybe I could pick out a couple pieces of meat but it almost just doesn't seem worth it because I've got this just tray in front of me and I'm not eating any of it. It's just sort of a waste and it's just like I'm just not going to eat it. I'd rather I would rather not eat anything than eat garbage that's bad for me. Yeah. And fasting is not bad anyway. No, it's not. And you we're, of course, we're used to doing it. We don't, you know, we don't have to eat multiple times a day. We go days without eating and do just fine. And, you know, eventually it'll it'll be too much. But, you know, if you if you don't have anything good to eat, don't eat. You know, if you're if you're actually in a famine and you're starving and, you know, you don't have access to, you know, good quality meat, fine. you know, any port in a storm uh for survival. But, you know, if you're just on a plane somewhere, you're just like, "Okay, well, I don't have anything to eat today." Fine, you're not starving. You know, just get something tomorrow. Okay, you're going to be here for two days. You know, you can find a McDonald's. You can get something here or there and, you know, go to Safeway and just just eat a raw steak as long as it's not contaminated. You know, it's like I've done that, you know. That's something that I've done. It's just like, you know, or or get a ham, you know, like a like a like a saltcured ham and and just eat that, you know. I went camping. I just bought a big ass ham and a chunk of butter and that's what I ate. I had a big slice of butter with a big chunk of ham and I would just just eat these, you know, these ham and butter, you know, hand. Ham is like a pork, isn't it? It is. Yeah. It's like a pork leg and it has fat on it. It's otherwise pretty lean. But isn't like ham like a worse piece of meat than the rest or Yeah. Well, you know, it's um it's it's it depends. You know, if you have autoimmune issue, you probably avoid pork and things like that, but it depends on what it's fed. You know, if it's fed a bunch like corn and soy, you know, that's that's not ideal. But um it's not you know it's still meat you know it's better than eating spinach you know and so you know so the thing is is like you know even if you don't have your perfect ideal meal you know you have options you know so like I was out in the middle of the bush in Australia camping and and I had a whole bunch of meat in a cooler and I' I'd cut up steaks and then I'd put them on a skewer and just roast them over the over the fire like marshmallows. It was amazing. It was amazing. Yeah. And yeah, you know, then I ran out of that. And so I was like, you know, going to the store and they they didn't really have um you know, uh the sort of the beef that I wanted, but they had these big ham legs. I'm like, done. Grab a big ham and a chunk of butter and u you know, cut off big chunks of this stuff. And that's what I ate for, you know, few days and it was fine. You know, you you figure it out. But doesn't it get heavy like if you're hiking for like 5 days because you have to carry all the meat or No, it's uh well, you know, it's very nutrientdense. I mean, obviously you're getting like a bunch of rice that you add water to. You know, that that's pretty easy. But, you know, if you're getting like um you know, I wasn't I wasn't just backpacking. I was uh I was out with my car and so I was camping. Yeah. So, I could leave I could leave um that stuff in the cooler and uh and then I would I would go out and I'd do different hikes and all that sort of stuff and and go out in nature. But, you know, if you're going to if you're going to um go backpacking, what you want want to make is pemkin because pemkin is what the the Native Americans ate and they would dry uh meat from, you know, the buffalo, the American buffalo, bison, and they dry it out and they crush it up with big stones and powder it and then they'd render all the fat because they actually do have a lot of fat on the on the outside, the subcutaneous fat, and they have intramdominal fat. It's just they don't have intramuscular fat because they're actually healthy animals. intramuscular fat is unhealthy. That's called myostattosis and it's a pathological sign of of metabolic ill health. And so you don't want that, right, as a as an animal. So these wild animals actually do have a lot of fat. It's just a subcutaneous fat and intraabdominal fat. And so you take all that fat, you render it down, and you take that rendered fat like that tallow, and you mix it in with the ground up uh dried uh beef or buffalo or whatever, and at a 50/50 mix, you know, weight of tallow and dried meat. And that lasts for years, you know, they found they found as long as you store it right, it it can last for years without preservatives or refrigeration. They found caches of these things um from the Revolutionary War in America that were from 50 years earlier and they were all fine. And um so the the Native Americans would they would make pemkin out of this entire buffalo herd that would fall off that would get scared off of a cliff and that's what they eat for the rest of the year until the herds came back and they had another big hunt and and did it again. And so you can take this stuff out. It's actually extremely nutritious. It's perfect nutrition. It's 2 g of fat to 1 gram of protein. So, it's very rich in fat. It's a very good fat content and fat ratio. And it has um for 3/4 of a pound, if I remember when I calculated this out correctly, 3/4 of a pound are um is about 2,000 calories of perfect nutrition. Right? So, let's pretend that you need 2,000 calories a day, which, you know, some people do, some people don't. Um, if you're if you're out camping or backpacking, 10 pounds of pack weight is 14 days of perfect nutrition. Yeah. 2,000 calories a day. So, it's actually it's actually pretty great. So, you know, if you're Yeah, that's that's the definitely the biggest bang for your buck. It's going to be the best nutrition that you'll ever be able to get. Best energy, best nutrition. You know, fat is much more um energy dense. It's way more energy dense than carbohydrates. So, you're having bags of honey, carbs, and all that sort of stuff. You still get way more calorie per gram of fat than you do per gram of of carbohydrates. Yeah. Because what's really cool about Norway, we have like this tourist association. I'm from the country. So then we have like six I think it's um that's 600 cabins that have like all the way all around Norway and then you can just travel from cabin to cabin to cabin and you don't need to have like almost like a drinking bottle etc. You just like drink the drink the water from the waterfalls. You just have to eat. You don't have anything. You don't have like anything. You can just go from high cabin to cabin. So you just travel for weeks. Really? Yeah. Cool. That's really cool. Yeah. But it's like Yeah. It's like um what can you say? Like it's smart to have a tent, but I don't think you really need it. But at least if you're traveling in the summer. So yeah. So is it is it are these cabins like just available for anybody to stay at or do you have to book them and reserve them or how does that work? Um like yes and no. Like you can book them like like the cabins outside the capital for example that's like almost full but if you travel like inside the country you can just travel from place to place. It's really really cool like um we have like 6,000 hikes in Norway like different trails. You can just follow the trails and then you can go to the cabin to cabin to cabin. Then you meet a lot of foreign travelers travelers who are doing the same. You just meet them and you hike during the day and then at the evening you just sit and relax and meet some people and that's kind of what you do in summer. Yeah. Cool. No, that's awesome. So yeah, especially when you have like all these waterfalls and stuff like you don't like water is not problem for you and like the temperature is good. It's like in the summer it's like 15 degrees. Mhm. So yeah, you can travel as long as your health or your body cooperates, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. That very cool. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that'd be great. I'd love to do that to do, you know, hike over over Norway. That'd be amazing. That's such a gorgeous country. Yeah. Yeah. I think I recommended to do it. Like we have like a lot of tourism coming here. So like in Stanga, it's like 700,000 tourists coming here and we're like 150,000 people. So imagine like all these tourists coming here and to see the fjords and everything. Yeah. So yeah, that's what kind of the the cool people do like they travel just from cabin to Kevin just travel for weeks. Yeah. And then you just meet some people and have like a really cool conversations and like you don't use phone or something. You just like maybe have like a compass and map and maybe some Yeah. Then you just follow the trail. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. Well, Alexander, I I really appreciate you taking the time. It was it was a real pleasure talking to you and u keep talking. It's a big honor for me. Yeah, I really appreciate it and it's great to hear your story and you know from that perspective, you know, this carnivore diet doesn't just help uh you know people that are sick or or you know in athletics or whatever. It just it just helps people live their life and whatever they want to do in their academic and professional endeavors. So, thank you very much for sharing your story. I really appreciate it. Especially for Yeah. play chess and like for brain performance like for exams or something or if you just want to like push your brain for like three weeks or something. I think it's just for the study energy. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Studying you know people you know you know people studying for exams and studying for the MCATs and you know board exams. This just helps your brain work and and helps you buckle down and stay focused and uh and be able to get your work done and and in a way that's not uh depressing and horrible and burn and burns you out. So it's really good. Yeah. So can I ask you something off the camera afterwards? Yeah, sure. We do that. Okay. Um but yeah. Um is there do you have any social media or anything like that or website that people can uh go check out to see if they want to go on a tour in Norway and things like that? Like our web page is getguided nor.com. Okay. So then you can book the hikes with my company. So, we basically do like the main tourist hikes, but we also do like other stuff if people want to do that. So, yeah. Okay, cool. Um, yeah. All right, perfect. Well, if you if you send that to me, I I'll put that up in the in the description and then Oh, thank you very much. Yeah, of course. Not a problem. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. So, great. Well, Alexander, I really appreciate it. Thank you very much for coming on and uh it's a great honor. Yeah. Yeah. And uh and everybody, thank you very much for watching. I hope you enjoyed that and got something out of it. 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