Pain Specialist Uses Carnivore Diet to Treat Patients! | Dr. Gurpreet Padda

[Music] I saw at one conference that really bothered me um someone was telling a story he was an Interventional cardiologist and he was really interested in preventative medicine preventing heart disease and atherosclerosis and heart attacks and all these sorts of things he was talking to a colleague of his about his interest in this and his his colleague was an Interventional cardiologist as well in the UK and he said I don't want to prevent heart disease that's what pays my bills I I don't I don't want there to be less heart attacks I want there to be more heart attacks so I can do more stent so I can take more people to a cath lab all these sorts of things I mean that guy should be locked up that guy should you know be you probably you given a blindfold in a cigarette and put in front of a wall I mean that that's like those are the type of things we we we we hung people for nurg trials I mean you don't do that you want more heart disease you want more suffering you know just so you can make money like that's wild but if if you can change the incentives so you know you're not making 15 grand putting in stance in somebody you know you're making not that much but you're making a decent amount of money educating people so they never have to have stance in the first place you know I think that might be the way well I think that would that would help help uh people anyway have get better outcomes yeah know I agree the the it it hars back to hearkens back to the the origin of Physicians and and the original origin of Physicians because in the United States I mean Physicians were really they were the class of people that were either doing butchering or they were doing um hair cutting and that's the origin of Physicians and surgeons that's that's the the fundamental basis and then there was a large group of people that were um mostly women that were saucer saucer or witches and so that's the origin of medicine but it didn't get corporatized it didn't become like medical school with corporatization until people decided that they wanted to sell drugs and they needed high price salesmen for these drugs and so that's the origin of of why we have medical school because it was a way to indoctrinate a sales crew into it and keep a separation between you and the sales crew and the sales crew makes their money but they sell your product and they just don't realize it that they're selling your product and so it's the the origin of pharmaceutical sales is a problem and almost everything that we do in medicine is driven by these large agencies that are trying to figure out how to sell more drug because when you make a drug it doesn't you do some research you make the drug and at that point like for example AIC probably cost $5 doll to make a dose of AIC but they sell it for 800 to $1,200 a month um but it costs five bucks um insulin it costs almost nothing to make um but they sell it for $1,000 a month that Delta is the incentive for those companies to do that but they can't do it on their own so they have the Physicians do it by manipulating the physician into saying oh this is what you need patient so here take this medication so we end up we end up in bed with the pharmaceutical industry if we're not careful and and that's pretty classic that that that's a that's a that's a that's that's how it works almost all new devices you end up in bed with the device manufacturer and the margin is really on the side of the manufacturer of the medication or whatever in the United States we have these things called pbms uh which are wholesale for medications and they make a ton of money the hospitals make money because there's programs where they can buy Pharmaceuticals at wholesale and then they can sell them at retail and they get to keep the difference but they got a subsidy to buy them at wholesale so a lot of the medical system in the United States is driven by medication and it's the sale of that medication it just so happens that Physicians are you know the one of the derivatives is that they they were high price salespeople and and I know that's very pejorative and I know that people take take that as offensive but that's the origin um and so you to separate yourself from that you have to step away you cannot accept funding from drug companies you you really have to once you get away from that then it clears your thoughts and you ask yourself okay what what's the best thing for my patient not what's the best thing that this drug company told me to give them but what's the best thing for the patient because I mean medications are life- saving and we we need them but just because you reformulated it slightly and Chang the milligram dosed slightly and then put it under a new patent doesn't mean that you should charge an extra couple thousand dollars for it um and the the reality is is that if you're trying to do health and as opposed to unhealth unhealth thrives on misery and it's like it's like the creature that just lives the misery of human beings and we can get away from that if we make human beings healthy but then that means that a big chunk of our healthc care expenditures will disappear and it'll radically shift the power in in in in the structure in in in our governmental influence and things of that nature so it's it's it's a tough tough thing it's a tough it's a tough road to hoe but at the end of the day if you want to really help your fellow human being that's where we should be as Physicians we should be trying to make that radical departure difference that says hey my patients don't need this or I can I can I figure this out without this not to say that there isn't like amazing stuff that we can do with medication and techniques and procedures and we need to do those things but there's other things we can do as well and then we wouldn't have you know we if we incorporated lifestyle coaching and and health coaching it would take more resources in terms of people and and and and other things but it would it would potentially stop a lot of the complications because these devices and medications also have complication risks and those complications build up at least 5% of people are misdiagnosed completely and the probably one of the number one causes of of death in the United States is iatrogenic we caused it our own selves we caused the problem that killed the patient and we didn't do it on purpose but it's it's a side effect and so those are the things that we need to kind of be aware of hey guys just want to take a second to thank our sponsor at carnivore bar I don't promote many products because honestly all you need to be healthy is to just eat meat for those times that you're out hiking road tripping or stuck at work and you want nutritious snack that is just meat fat and salt if you want it the carnivore bar is a great option so I like this product not because it's just pure meat but also because I want the carnivore Market to thrive as well and the more we support meat 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that and and he spoke about how um when they discovered insulin and um and and it use obviously in diabetes and type 1 diabetics in particular um they thought it was I mean these guys pretty sure they won the Nobel Prize uh for this and they um they thought it was such an important thing for the world that they uh didn't even keep keep the patent they they sold the patent to the public for a dollar just he's like no this has to be everywhere no one should be you know capitalizing on this uh it's it's probably unfortunate they did that they probably should have kept the patent and then sell sold it for a reasonable price because then people got their hands on it and then they they manufactur and sold it for for exorbitant amounts of of money and you know obviously it's 100 years down the line now I mean that was 1921 um they they came up with insulin and now it's you know they're coming up with all the new different kinds of insulins and things like that so they can just keep charging more and more and more um and then then there's other sorts of issues too I mean there was all that that weird um problems with the epipens where they sort of boxed out their competition and then all of a sudden EpiPen was the only one on the market and then all of a sudden boom it was $400 a pen and I like what are you doing you talking about like kids with a peanut allergy they're going to die and it's just like 400 let's go um it's pretty pretty uh ghoulish uh to do something like that when you're talking about saving someone's life um I remember see a friend of mine he was um uh he was from Ireland and he was playing um you know a game in the US somewhere don't remember where East Coast somewhere and he had travel insurance but then he like broke his arms sort of distal radius and so it real simple was in there uh for a day case just to um you know just to do an you know open reduction and fixation and just put a little plate in it and so it was really easy just a day case didn't even stay overnight and he got the bill and it was like 50 Grand you know and and he's looking through this he's like what in God's name is this or maybe he's even more than that um and this was you know 15 20 years ago and he looked at the itemized breakdown of it and he found uh he was he said that he was in pain in recovery and they gave him two Tylenol and they charged him $600 for those two Tylenol it was just wild just wild that they that they can do that as well and um I gu when you have travel insurance will sort of pay whatever but I mean it was just um you know taking advantage of that was just shocking to me well if you look at the so I'll give you an example it's akin to this um and I looked at you know I work with my Orthopedic colleagues all the time in the United States if you get a total hip or total knee replacement what do you ballpark is the surgical fee for a total hip or total knee in the US oh I would say $8 to ,200 so yeah the surgical fee for a total hip is$ 1375 for a total need is 1430 that's a surgery fee yeah in a hospital yeah but what's the fee to the what's the fee that they're charge Medicare it's between $65,000 and $95,000 the bulk of that money goes to the facility yeah um about $20,000 of it between between 8 to 20,000 would go for the implant um but the surgeon is making 1375 to 1470 whatever it is and they take care of the patient for the next 90 days and and so if the patient has a complication in the next 90 days it's associated with a total hip or total knee the the surgeon's going to have to take care of it grus and that and that tells you where the incentive is because the incentive the surgeon barely making it because it takes him 40 minutes to do that procedure and they've got to still pay their office they got to pay everything and the surgeon is not making much money who's making the money is the hospital it's the facilities and and and it's the pharmaceutical industry it's not so the average the average house the average income inflation adjusted for Physicians has gone down in the United States by 50% over the last 10 years wow inflation adjusted income is down 50% whereas the cost of Health Care in in the United States has gone up by 80% inflation adjusted in the last 10 years so where's what's going on here why is the physician income down 50% inflation adjusted but the cost has gone up 80% inflation adjusted the difference is that per physici we now have 10 administrators in the United States States who can't practice medicine but work in healthcare so each physician is is pulling the donkey cart for 10 administrators and they need that physician to work a lot harder so that they can maintain their salaries there's been a 3,800 growth in administrators in the United States that's ridiculous and so we've gotten so far away from practicing medicine that we're basically just the we've become the slave class almost and I hate to say it that way but that's what it is we if if we stopped doing what we're doing there'd be a lot of Administrators that would be really pissed off because they need us but at the same point you know we need to we need to help our patients and we need to be able to spend the time to do it um and and to do it correctly and so you know and we've just migrated from one one catastrophy into another for example we have this amazing drug uh AIC and Muro these are uh glps and we use them to a small degree but within the context of their what they're used for so they certainly will help you lose weight because they'll give you gastro pris they stop your stomach from emptying but there's something more important um and that is that they cause your brain to be anhedonic they cause you to no longer seek that pleasure of the food which revers is that honic cycling and when you do that it it has a side effect too which is if you're an alcoholic you stop drinking and so if you're a serious alcoholic and I put you in a glp you might end up seizing because you acutely sto drinking because you no longer have a desire and that's happened to me a couple times that's issue one issue two though is because you get gastroparesis you can't empty your stomach so you're not likely to eat and you can't break down protein and when you can't do that you start to get sarcopenic wasting first and the sarcopenic wasting precedes the weight loss and that sarcopenic wasting never comes back so even when you get off the glp once you've gotten to your weight that you think that you should be at you've gotten there in a way that you've lost your muscle mass and that muscle mass doesn't come back you get off the glp all of a sudden you regain the weight but it's not muscle and you're you're at a higher risk of having problems because you're not able to produce the myocin that you need which are actually anti-inflammatory and you end up with more white adapost tissue producing more leptin which has all of the cyto kind problems and all the inflammatory issues so you're not getting the benefit that we'd want and and what we did was we traded insulin for zic and they both cost $1,200 a month so the companies didn't lose any money but we made the patient sicker over time and I think that's going to be our next big thing is we're going to see patients that we've put onto zic they've gotten a lot sicker and now they're skinny fat um and they're going to be even worse than they were and they're going to be higher risk of fall and a higher risk of sarcopenic cloths yeah definitely hey everyone really happy to announce a new sponsor for the show for everybody down in Australia Stockman staks who are delivering highquality grass-fed and finished pasture raised beef and other meat flash frozen and vacuum sealed to Door something I've been enjoying a lot of myself recently as well they also have a a great range of specialty items such as high fat keto mints and carnivore beef and organs mints with liver kidneys and beef heart as well so use code chaffy today for free order of beef mints or another specialty gift along with your order at Stockman steaks.com com.au and I'll see you over there thanks guys um yeah I I actually um I I've heard this for years I'm sure you have as well that you know the reason that healthc care is is out of control and the cost of healthcare is out of control is because doctors just get paid too much and you know they're just all rolling it and things like that and um and that always pissed me off because I actually read an economic report that showed that if you didn't pay doctors a single scent that it would not appreciably lower the cost of Health Care to the to the people it would not change anything um we're basic like you said you know people go you know there come telling to see the doctor you're you're supporting the entire establishment um it's big establishment big hospital these things are like little cities you know and you're going to see the doctors those are the minority of um of the people that work there and they they get paid a minority of the fees and have sort of turned doctors into sort of hourly workers or just a you know wheel in a machine you know Cog and a machine and and they're just there to churn out office visits and procedures just to you know generate revenue for the hospital um but they don't they don't see much of that they're just a sort of an hourly employee or you know bill for you know procedure sort of employee where it used to be the doctors you know would would own the practice would own the hospital and now you have these big hmos and and uh massive corporations that own everything just hire doctors and then they just feed off them um a friend of mine as a lawyer sort of equated this to indentured servitude you know they've got they've sort of you and and um school loans as well you going to get these massive school loans hundreds of thousands of dollars and you're paying those off for 20 25 years now and um you're paying back far more than you gain you borrowed and the interest rates you know what 8.5% or something like that I think is on my student loans anyway and um and so it's it's a massive Roi for these people and I think I graduated when I graduated medical school I had already racked up another $100,000 in interest I was like okay it's like already at the point of absurdity at this point and um that uh you know then they have you working for them sort of for the rest of your life and then you're in this institution that you're basically just turning out money and like you said you sort of uh yeah you're in this indentured servitude you know know we brought you here we let you be a doctor but now you work for us for the rest of your life and it's sort of this deal with the devil that um you know they sort of snuck in on us because that didn't used to be the way you know doctors used to do very well and because they had you know they had um you know a slice of the pie of the prophets you know they would would have own art ownership in the practice or the hospital or something like that and uh like my great-grandfather he was um uh he went went to Columbia he was the still to date the youngest graduate from Columbia Medical School he was like 20 years old couldn't even practice until he was 21 so he had to just go home and hang out like you know the 18 you know Doogie Hower 1800s and um and just you know and then go back to um residency after that at Bellevue Hospital but he went ended up in Southern California and he was like the 13th medical license that California ever gave out and he helped found Redlands Hospital and so you know he was he you know was part owner in that and that's that was a pretty common thing that doctors would would actually be the ones building the facilities and and and running them um and now that's definitely not the case we've just sort of been suckered into this position position where we're just sort of yeah just cogs in a machine and just tring out for other people and like you say the only way out of that is to step out of it you know just not not uh be involved in the first place and you also get to practice better you actually get to practice real medicine you actually get to do the things that you see helping your patients instead of just doing what you're told because that's what the hospital says you need to do you know Dr Shawn Baker he got drummed out of his practice um he was head of Orthopedics at um at his group and I believe New Mexico at the time and um because he started coming to these metabolic therapies for people and and getting them better so they didn't need joint Replacements and he was really happy with that because his patient was doing better um but it was really pissing off the hospital because they weren't able to Bill $70,000 you know per per joint replacement and um and they made some trumped up charges and tried to get his license taken away to get him out of there and you know it didn't stick you know they didn't take his license away they just investigated him for a couple years and then said yeah there's nothing wrong and um you know but it it's uh it's very it's very you know disenchanting with the whole system that uh that because you know you're doing real real work for your patients real benefit for your patients that your hospital tries to destroy you and destroy your career and your medical license it's absolutely wild but is tow protein the problem or is it the accumulation of it it's similar to the heart uh the the cholesterol hypothesis for the heart is the cholesterol the problem or is it that the cholesterol accumulates in the area of the damage and that's what we're seeing and and slowly we've migrated