The Most Carnivore Friendly City In The World!

[Music] hey everyone uh Dr Anthony chaffy here today with a friend of mine Tyler from the Rondevu City Roundup uh which is the event that I went to last year we had a steak tasting contest and they asked me to be a judge and obviously the answer is yes I'll obviously be a judge for that he just G to pile on stakes and and ask me to tell which tell you which one I like the best um and uh we're um going to be well Tyler's going to be doing uh more of that this year and actually going to be expanding it more to a more carnivore sort of um I don't know Festival Rodeo uh see what it is but uh Tyler thanks for coming on yeah thank you for having me man this is awesome no worries man so can you tell us a bit about this and about the event and what you're planning for this year yeah so uh actually it was like seven years ago or eight years ago I said to my wife like this is how we need to be promoting some of this beef and um you know the direct to Consumer wasn't a a big thing at the time and we started out I got a whole bunch of people together and more and more people kind of like the idea um and we actually failed the first year we couldn't get enough producers interested in it we were like man we can't do this just half-hearted and and um we regathered uh a little bit smaller group and got got some more interest in it and uh this will be the fifth annual beef Roundup this year um so it's been great it's grown exponentially every year um and we're kind of looking looking forward to that again this year and um so the we originally just started it to promote the the best beef in Wyoming um we had started selling our beef uh not too long after we got married about 10 12 years ago and everybody that would come over to our house would you know and and eat dinner with us or anybody that we sold uh a beef to would always say this is the best beef and I thought about it for a while and I was like man why why isn't there anything that that actually does promote like what the best beef is and uh you know have a buckle or something like that and um it just it kept coming back around and so the first year we only did it for Wyoming ranches we had uh 10 ranches from around Wyoming they all put in the the same cut of meat and they put in seven pounds of New York strip and we had a had a chef cook it all exactly the same we keep it all separated uh and then you would you would have like a little number on each one and you would get a 1 o serving from each of the 10 different ranches and there were some local articles couple magazines covered it and uh bunch of Social Media stuff and immediately I got calls from producers in other states uh that were like we can't imagine how you're getting this done like we couldn't do this in our state uh can we compete and so yeah the second year we had a um we call it the best beef in the west and we've now opened it up it's the whole country um last year's winner was from Michigan so uh it was it was pretty exciting yeah yeah I remember that that was good had a good stake so yeah I think was um I think I was pretty pretty unanimous on that one it was it was it was a highly rated Stak sort of all the judges sort of rated that one as as very very high and then uh most people voted that one as as the best one so yeah so it's um it's weird too because like you know there're staks right and you think it's like oh it's me they they actually did have a bit unique flavor a lot of them just tasted like really good stake but some of them just just stood out just a little bit from the other so it's actually quite interesting to see that the different characters of the different Stakes yeah that's that's the comment that we get every year from all of the judges um they're like this is one of the most difficult things I've ever done yeah uh because if you were to take any one of those stakes and had it at like a high-end restaurant you would think that's an awesome stake um but then when you put like 32 of them together and it's like each one continues to get better than the last one you're like holy cow this is so hard so yeah it's been really cool and that's the fun part for me um and that was kind of always the dream is that these producers would be able to leverage that into some advertising and I got a note about um three months after we sent the Buckle and we send like a really nice poster that tells their overall score um to the people in Michigan and they're obviously like close to a pretty large city like it it it wouldn't be as powerful for me way out here in the country but um yeah they they were like we have had a a 35% increase in our business every month um yeah since the you know and they get like a national um beef magazine and actually this year I think there's two magazines that are going to cover it nationally um they get an article about them winning the competition in that and then all the awards that we send them and um yeah that I mean that was like $122,000 per month additional income for them so that was that was so cool to hear that they were able to translate that into some some sales for them yeah well it is good and yeah it's it's really good for them and obviously going to make it more interesting for other other producers to put it in but you know it's uh it's you know you you never know how that's going to work I mean they're they're a beef producer but that doesn't mean that that other people are going to necessarily know that they won that unless they you know have some unless there's some advertising with it so having in the magazines and things like that is really good as well so yeah that's really cool um so this year um what do you guys planning to do this year to sort of uh grow it and have a be a bit of of a different experience so after last year when you were here um you know I I had followed the carnivore diet and I kind of always thought you know I was really I thought it was really amazing that all these people were getting healed from all of these different things but like I wasn't sick and I thought oh that's that's super cool but then when you were here I was like man I can't I can't do what I do and have this guy like in my house and then not try it yeah so I started carnivore right that that next day and um you know it was it's been amazing uh my energy level is so much higher um my focus uh lost 20 pounds um just yeah it's been great especially during this cing season to be able to maintain my energy you know we're I'm going on like six weeks of um you know five four or five hour nights you know that's it get it really wears on you and we're we're at the very end of it we're spring is our busiest time but um so I immediately and I I remember you were like still here Yellowstone or something and I text you I was like man how do you travel and do this is it like I couldn't even eat around town like we would go out for dinner I'm like what what am I I have to order something special and uh I thought you know we really need to have something that is specific to carnivores and so I visited with our committee our planning committee and I visited with the mayor and he's been really a huge supporter of the event and he said yeah I said you know we we really need to do something to let people know that we're going to make an effort for the carnivores and so we're going to have a declaration signed that on Saturday August 24th uh Riverton Wyoming will be the most carnivore friendly city in the world nice yeah yeah yeah so uh hoping to get some attention for that we're going to get it signed in like July and try and get some media about that but uh ultimately our the the Chamber of Commerce director is on our planning committee and so all of the chamber uh restaurants are going to have a full carnivore option on the menu we have sponsor hotels yeah I'm trying to get a couple of gyms you know most most people are pretty uh Fitness conscious and so we're going to try and have a couple of gyms that will give us a codes so that you can go and work out and they might even have a little something special as a sponsorship there too so yeah we're just uh getting more meat and uh getting it all over the city and making it to where people are gonna have a really good time yeah nice well it was I I had a great time last time it was it was a really cool setup they had sort of the rodeo in uh or sort of the rodeo I guess it was the practice sort of area that uh the guys were doing there we had a lot of guys doing the the tasting and the judging and um I really enjoyed that obviously and um uh but the whole experience I thought I thought it was a great setup and there was like dinner afterwards and all the different booths and stands and different sort of cool little things I think you were say you know this year you know the plan is um to have um people come back like I'm coming back but then uh Dr sha Omar is coming Jake from life like Jake is coming courtly Lun is coming Dr Lisa weidman's coming U my friend um Simon Lewis from howu carnivore that I do howu Carnival with uh randomly was planning on being in Wyoming anyway with his wife we were just talking about that at a conference this weekend in Melbourne and um mentioned Wyoming at at um you know during this time and he was saying like wait what like we're actually going to be in Wyoming like we're just going to be on vacation there I was like well this this this whole thing they're trying to doing like a carnivore um a carnivore sort of uh you know function Rodeo sort of thing he's like well come down too so he's gonna come down as well and have a uh H and we'll have like I guess we're planning for like a twoh hour sort of uh meet and greet Q&A session where people can get to come in and hang out in the auditorium ask questions and interact with all of us there and then obviously we're going to be there throughout the whole event and you know hanging out and talking to people and eating steak um so is that uh so uh so with that is is there other sorts of events as well you know what what's the story with the the rodeo side of things as well do you know yeah so I'm I'm working with the the rodeo team and so like this is our community college and I think a lot of people think like uh office building when they think like night school for Community College yeah our our school is a fully accredited a school um and the arena the indoor facility that we host the event in uh it was just built last year that was opening day last year it's a $18 million facility um that has a fully approved USDA meat processing facility inside the building we didn't even get to tour that last year like we were so busy with everything else uh so we're going to try and highlight that more but yeah we're trying to we're trying to work with the road team and the ranch horse team to do some demonstrations throughout the day in the outdoor Arena um in the indoor arena we're going to have some vendor spaces so you know anything carnivore anything beef anything Wyoming is uh what we're looking for and [Music] um we've got the VIP dinner is in the evening so in the morning we'll do the uh we'll do the carnivore Q&A session with you Dr sha Omar Dr Lisa Weedman um uh Simon's gonna be there and then Jake Thomas from life like Jake and it'll be about a two-hour session where only audience members can ask questions and um that will be a ticketed event the tickets are like 25 bucks so um that's on their website be roundup.com um there's that in the morning then we're trying to we're trying to work with the city and a couple sponsors to do a concert there's a baseball field right right next to the facility um we got some really cool local acts that we're trying to get all lined up that's like way above my pay grade I somebody else is gonna have to do that I'm not a concert promoter but um yeah we're working on that so it's really just going to be a whole day of everything beef we always have a few talks throughout the day if you want to do some education um the founder of pluck is coming this year I got to visit with him and yeah he's you know he has such an amazing story on how he developed that he is GNA do some cooking he was a chef before he started pluck and so he is going to do some cooking and there there'll be a ton of free samples for pluck um we're going to we got carnivore bar is involved this year um we got a promo code for them the the beef Roundup do or yeah beef Roundup uh is your promo code to save 10% on Carnivore bars uh they sent us a ton like I think we'll give some as like door prizes um we got all kinds of stuff lined up this year it's really it's been amazing to see how much the carnivore Community has embraced it and we're still you know if there's any companies that have U carnivore products that want to uh set up a booth we definit or or do some sponsorship would love to have them join us as well but um yeah we'll start out in the morning with the the carnivore Q&A over in the auditorium and then just move across the street to the arena um there'll be the all the vendors general admission is free um there's other ticketed events throughout the day uh one of the one of the most popular ones all the time is the um wine and and beef pairing class so we get a chef and a Somer and a local uh their Jackson hle Winery usually sends us some wine and so people can go in and they have couple little samples of different dishes and uh couple samples of wine that's always a fun one that people really enjoy last year we added the beef and beer pairing um that one was really popular too so I know you're probably not interested in those but you know we always have a a crossover in the in the audience so those are good ones um and then the the VIP dinner is that we we try and keep the Wyoming producers as kind of the star of the show and so we get 10 Wyoming ranches um they all put in the exact same cut of beef everyone with a VIP ticket gets to be the judge that night we we serve 125 and you'll get a one oce serving from each of the 10 different ranches it's fun people get a little uh scorecard and they get to make some notes I'm always impressed with like how serious people take it um I thought it would be kind of a a fun thing to where like oh I like this one or oh I like that one and people get really serious about it like we had some people ask us for extra note cards so they could write more notes so yeah yeah and then like inevitably I always get somebody afterwards that Corners me like a husband and a wife and they're like oh he didn't like the steak that I liked that that's that sounds like a person personal issue you guys take that up but yeah um and it it's always interesting um we get the those VIP tickets they come with a swag bag that is just full of stuff like last year we had a beef Tallow chapstick uh a beef Tallow lotion a beef Tallow soap um you get one of the commemorative posters every year we do a commemorative poster and you can usually the artist is there and so you can have them sign it um they're really they're really beautiful um last year's painting ended up at my house my sister-in-law bought it and couldn't take it home with her we we we auction it off um as a fundraiser for the scholarship um we do a ultimately it's a scholarship program and so like any of the merchandise like I got the I love beef hat on um we still got some of those uh this year we did a did a Maga hat um I don't know if you can see it yeah eat red meat again and then we did cook beef rare again um so we got a few of those we got some great t-shirts that are uh a steak a day keeps the doctor away and um what was the other oh I got meat sweats at the beef Roundup yeah and so yeah we we got some cool merchandise this year um and so all of that stuff ultimately all of these proceeds go to funding a scholarship uh for meat Sciences because we're we're in desperate need of more butchers and so the school has that meet Sciences program and um we are funding that through this scholarship and then ultimately as we get that fully fun funded uh we will Branch out into other areas of Agriculture so that there's really our school has a h regenerative farming program that also has a meat side to it and so we want to fund that as well um so yeah we're we're just keep adding and building there's there's so much stuff everybody's like you're going to have to do a two-day format like you're going to have to talk to my wife I one is a lot um but yeah we have a ton of great programs and just trying to um uh help promote the producers and help get kids involved or young people involved in agriculture yeah well that's awesome well it's uh I had a lot of fun last time Wyoming is absolutely gorgeous it was you know it's it's is an hour or so away from the Tetons and Yellowstone and so when we W out there you were kind enough to put us up in some of the you know the sort of the cabins out there it was absolutely stunning you know was one of the nicest places that I've been to in uh in the world really and you you just he just massive mountain range with Tetons you getting into Yellowstone you know and that it's Yellowstone you know it's one of the the greatest you know pieces of wilderness in the world we had an absolutely fantastic time you know just driving around just looking at the scenery going horseback writing and uh and just seeing everything was we weren't we weren't there for long enough you know we ended up staying an extra 4 days on top of that and that still wasn't enough time to see all the things that we wanted to see and do all the things we wanted to do so you know if people are uh interested in this you know it's something that um you know we've been talking about to try to make this like a big you know carnivore event and uh we you know we'll see how it goes this year and just try to build on it every year but if people are able to come out a you know hopefully it'll be a lot of fun for the event itself but B it's it's absolutely stunning and getting a chance to get out to the Teton get out to Yellowstone that's that's one of the places they're really a must see for anybody especially people living in the States you know it's just it's just something you have to do you have to get out there you have to see these uh this these parts of this part of the world and these parts of the country um because they're just stunning they're absolutely stunning so that was something that I was I was really happy to do and um so if people are able to come out and check this out and then stay you know for a few days and make a trip out of it go to Yellowstone go camping or stay out in the cabins because it's absolutely stunning it's absolutely gorgeous country yeah there that's one of the things there's so much to do here uh you know we're 3540 minutes from Thermopolis which is all of the hot um mineral pools that you can go and and do the water parks and like some of the hotels have like your own private hot water mineral spa in the room um it's just amazing yeah and then like you say uh about an hour and a half two hours to the Tetons and just when you come up over that last Hill and see they just explode out of the ground and like the hair on the back of your neck stands up it it's amazing um yeah and then obviously you could spend a month just in Yellowstone and not even scratch the surface so it is there there's a lot to do this year we added um some of the museums in Cody if you were to if you were to come into the park on the Teton side and then go out towards Cody and up towards Montana um the the Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody was raid in as one of the top 10 museums in the world wow um yeah and they were rated want to say number one for all of their uh Native American Wing they have an entire side devoted just to Native American culture that's truly amazing to get up there to the museum it's the same way like you could spend a week just in the museum not scratch the surface um we've got the military museum uh military vehicle museum is in Duboce uh which is like 45 minutes between here and the T uh it the collection of guns and tanks and if you're into that they have airplanes now out in the parking lot this guy has put together uh three or four collections from around the world and it it's all curated it it's absolutely amazing so there's just there's so much to do and then like you said try and get in some Rodeo time um there's always the D boy Friday night Rodeo um so yeah there's just a ton to do and um it it is it's a beautiful time of year here because it's it's not super hot and it hasn't started snowing yet and typically um we we never say the four letter word that starts with w in in Wyoming uh because that makes it Blow and so we uh there's typically not much wind that time of year so it's really really a great time to get out and just plan a whole trip around it and then uh come and eat a whole bunch of steak we'll we'll have um we'll have some free samples for people you know obviously we we did a we added an ultimate carnivore um ticket this year if if you want to come and and really be intimately involved we have actually some events on the Friday before that are just for uh like yourself Dr Shan omara um some of the sponsors we're going to do a um USDA meat processing facility tour and then we're going to go out to our Ranch and um I want people to see kind of what ranching with wild horses and less than nine inches of rain a year is like uh I think it's really important for people to understand uh what it takes to to make a steak in this High Mountain Desert and it's challenging anywhere but and there's always unique challenges everywhere that you go with ranching uh if it was easy everyone would do it and so I want people to get a feel for that so there's going to be that on Friday we're going to add a producers party that evening but there's 10 of these ultimate carnivore passes and you will be you will have full access to all of those things you'll have full access to everything on Saturday from the the Q&A session um all of the VIP events you'll get into and then on Sunday uh you know last year we just kind of started it off off the cuff like everybody ended up out at our house Sunday afternoon or Sunday throughout the day I think when you were there like the the Navy guys they had all gone fishing they took um my sister-in-law and the and the little girl and our daughters they went fishing with the Navy guys up on the lakes and they had a blast they came home like right after you left they came back and uh they had caught just buckets of fish and so we you know we have all of those staks that we we've thought them out and they've been thought out from the day before and some of them don't all get cooked we only take the the top four steaks back the final round to determine what the the best beef in the west is so we have a ton of these extra stakes and um you know we got to get them cooked so we it turned into kind of The Unofficial Afterparty and so yeah if you get one of those ultimate carnivore passes you can come out hang out at the house help us clean up all these Stakes um hang out with yourself uh just out on the back deck you know we have a very beautiful view there and just going to have fun um playing with the kids and cooking steak obviously that's my hobby is uh cheese making and Sherie so I've been I've been working on a lot of that stuff over the winter so we're gonna have a amazing Sherie board yeah nice man well that sounds awesome uh I'm definitely looking forward to it it's I'm def looking forward to getting out um out in the country again and and uh you know just just being able to just be out there in the in the scenery and out in the country you know and you know that was that something you said too there's just wild horses just roaming around and yeah that's like we were driving up you just see there's just these you know stallions just bolting by you and uh it's not something you see every day uh which is pretty cool so you know it's it's a part of the world part of the country that not many people get to see but it is definitely worth seeing and so I encourage everybody to to come check it out if you can and you know at the very least you get out into uh one of the most you know gorgeous spots on on the on the map and be able to to uh see some of the things that not everybody gets to see or takes the time to see anyway even though it's right there so definitely encourage everyone to check it out and I'm looking forward to it this year as well yeah that was one of the coolest things from last year I remember um there was a lady that she'd found out you were coming and she wanted to meet you and like she was you you were in the judging room and we don't really let any of the public in there um and somebody had found me and said you know this lady wants to to meet Anthony and she had had like rheumatoid arthritis most of her life I think is that what the story was but she was literally in tears because she had started carnivore for like two or three years now and um she had been off all medication like all her rheumatoid arthritis was was in remission and and she was she she looked amazing um you know and she was there like all day she was on her feet like all day I saw her there and um I guess she did finally get to meet you and stuff so that was that was so cool that was very powerful for me um to see how much it meant to someone so yeah if there's you know any anyone that's wanting to come out and meet some of the doctors it it is it's such a casual setting that um you know we have very few restrictions that we have to go by so it that was really cool for me to see how powerful it was for someone to to be able to thank you for you know ultimately changing their life so yeah it's uh it's very unique event and it it's come up um very um I don't know organic or holistically or however you want to say it's just become this very rich authentic experience that uh just doesn't happen every day no yeah no that lady was was very sweet and she'd been in such a large amount of pain um that she was basically crippled with it and she couldn't function she couldn't ride horses she couldn't uh take care of her kids take her kids to school and know one of her you know she's out there in the middle of the country you know that you you ride horses you're on a ranch you need to ride horses for uh for work as much as for entertainment but it was something that she really enjoyed doing that was a passion of hers was riding horses and she hadn't been able to ride horses in six years and then after going carnivore um just sort of resolved all of her uh serious pain issues so she could function again she she was riding horses again for the first time in six years she was able to be a mother to her kids take them to school take them to sports and and just be involved in their lives for the first time in you know six years you know and so that was that was amazing and she was she was very sweet but she was very uh tearful she was like she was literally crying when she was talking to me about it and telling me about it you know nothing else worked and no one could help her and she was on all these pain medications and just nothing was helping and um and then she was able to come off all of it she's off all medications and uh and just had her life back which was amazing and I believe she had um like fibromyalgia as well just pain comp complex pain syndrome where she just was in just an extreme amount of pain all the time and um it's really nice to hear uh people getting better uh from things like that we have we have no answer for that in traditional medicine it's just you know we give people pills and sort of mask some of the symptoms and if it doesn't help it's like sorry you're just going to have to deal with it and uh that's you know that's obviously not good enough but it's it's nice to be able to see people actually improve and actually get better and just and get rid of these diseases you know it's not Faith healing this is science you know this is how the body works and if you start screwing with that you start putting toxins in the body and the body starts reacting negatively to it you're going to have negative symptoms it's all there is to it you get rid of those things and you only eat what your body is designed to eat you're going to get better you're going to get rid of these stupid things you get rid of lead pipes you're not going to have lead poisoning anymore it's that simple and it's the same thing with all these other diseases the exact same diseases happen to all animals if they get fed the wrong things why are we fooling ourselves you know animals the only animals that get these illnesses these same illnesses that we get are animals that are eating a biologically inappropriate diet and we are getting the same exact diseases so that right there to me is proof positive that we're eating the wrong thing because this only happens to animals that eat the wrong thing now we're now we're getting these exact same diseases and we're eating random crap and we have and that's but that's not what humans have ever traditionally eaten right and so and and we're we're kidding ourselves if we don't re if we don't think that that um that that's an inappropriate thing for humans to eat and then you stop eating all that and the problems go away just like every other animal on earth so you know it's just um these are just facts and The Facts of Life the facts of biology and the facts of the world and you can deny those facts all you want but you know they're gonna you know that that's not going to make them go away you know you can deny reality all you want reality reality will win every single time so it's just really nice to see people looking at that and realizing that it's not a great argument that no no no no just just you know keep destroying yourself and hurting yourself even though you're just sick and miserable no just keep doing the same thing everything's fine here yeah you try something else you get REM remarkably different results oh but that no that couldn't be well it is you know and so it's always nice to see see people when they get better like that um because it's you know it's just it's very refreshing to see people actually getting better for once instead of just constantly getting sicker yeah yeah I know I'm like I said I I just felt so much better within it was funny like you were um I was sending messages back and forth with you and you were like oh man you're gonna feel like a superhero next week you know by the time you do this and this and it was it was it was amazing um yeah so it's been and that's one thing I've noticed with cing you know like we said um it's six to eight weeks of you know you you might get four hours of sleep a night for you know four nights out of the week for eight weeks and it kind of like being uh on one of your medical rotations or something in med school and uh you know normally you you would just feel wasted you'd have to sleep for like 10 days afterwards and um I I got a good night sleep last night we're we're down to like the last six or eight and neither none of them were very close last night and uh so I I felt pretty comfortable going to sleep I I slept from 10 to to 5 and uh you know it I felt like I was completely rested this morning um so that that's made a huge difference because in the in years past it would it take a week or 10 days to get over this six weeks of cing um because you just you don't have an option you know if especially if it's cold or if the wind's blowing really hard or something you might be up for two or three days straight and uh I've just been you know if I felt tired if I felt hungry I was I was eating everything eggs milk steak everything I could get my hands on and within like one day of a good sleep or a long nap or something I I felt totally fine again so it's been awesome yeah awesome it's great to hear man yeah yeah well cool all right man well I was you know it's great to hear about I'm really looking forward to the um to the event and and seeing everybody there that's able to come out so the website is beef roundup.com and location is in Riverton Wyoming and that is going to be is that the weekend of the 25th in August or which weekend yep yeah it's August 24th and um you know that I I just started the a new Instagram uh to go with the website yesterday so okay uh beef round up on Instagram I still have uh rendevu City be frown up on Facebook but if you w to um follow along on Instagram I'm G to start posting stuff pretty regularly on there to update and there there's just a little bit I think think these hats the I love beef Wyoming license plate hat that has the Tetons in the background I think that's up they were just getting uh some photographs of the new t-shirts we got the new t-shirts in and some of the other merchandise is coming in this week so there there'll be new stuff every week on the on the website bfr roundup.com the tickets are available right now tickets are selling if they're producer uh go to the get involved page and fill out the get involved and click on producer there's some prompts there we'd love to have more beef um this year we have a regenerative class as well so the all all grass-fed grass finished uh regenerative practices um we've got a a special buckle for them I think sha Omar is going to want to be a judge in that one you can pick whichever one you want to judge the open division or that uh I think we're going to have to make you like an honorary board member or something so you're helping us build the event more than anything but um yeah there there's just a ton of stuff so follow that that Instagram or that Facebook and I will just keep plugging stuff in I'd love to see how how quickly we can grow that but there'll be updates on the concerts um I get a whole bunch of the links from the sponsors for discount codes um and then we have you know you know because our when people say you're going to a city in Wyoming they don't understand like Riverton is 10,000 people and that's a normal size it's like it's like the seventh largest in Wyoming so um yeah you're not going to like Chicago this is a very very small town um so we have we have to do a lot of different hotels so as hotels get booked up um you know the casinos have a lot of hotels and that's some of our parties are at uh but we'll we'll keep updating people with like where they can find rooms we have some campgrounds we have some airbnbs um so we'll just keep all that stuff going on social media and try and update the website as much as we can so yeah and then obviously if there's any carnivore companies or um or beef beef related companies would love to have them be vendors as well and uh just go to this specific L carnivore audience in the the most carnivore friendly city in the world yeah awesome well that's great man we'll put up all those links in the description and people can find it there and um get tickets and hopefully we'll see you all there uh Tyler thank you so much and I'll see you in August yeah thanks man it's good to see you again you too man all right we'll see everybody else there as well hopefully you all can make it and we'll see you in August then take take care