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Understanding The Carnivore Diet with Dr. Anthony Chaffee | January 11, 2025

Dr. Anthony Chaffee hosts a comprehensive Q&A session addressing viewers' questions about optimizing carnivore nutrition and troubleshooting health challenges. He emphasizes that fatty beef alone provides complete nutrition without needing eggs or supplements, though proper fat ratios are crucial - traditional ground beef was 70/30 fat-to-protein rather than today's leaner 80/20. Key discussion points include managing blood pressure reduction through carbohydrate elimination, as insulin causes arterial muscle thickening and homocysteine from B12 deficiency damages vessel walls.

Extensive coverage focuses on autoimmune conditions like Hashimoto's thyroiditis and alopecia, where Dr. Anthony Chaffee explains his theory that these aren't true autoimmune diseases but rather immune responses to plant toxins and chemicals attacking tissues. He details how antibodies target foreign substances attached to cells rather than the body's own tissues, similar to celiac disease mechanisms. The timeline for antibody reduction can extend 8+ months on strict lion diet protocols.

Practical guidance addresses common carnivore challenges including electrolyte management, weight loss stalls, and transitioning children from processed foods. Dr. Anthony Chaffee emphasizes eating fatty meat until taste signals diminish, explaining how nutrient receptors in the stomach communicate satiety through the vagus nerve. He also discusses ketone production for brain development and healing, particularly important for children and those recovering from neurological injuries.

Key Takeaways

  • Consume 1-2 grams of fat per 1 gram of protein from fatty cuts of beef, as traditional ratios were 70/30 rather than today's leaner 80/20 ground beef
  • Blood pressure improvements occur through two mechanisms: reduced insulin prevents arterial muscle thickening, and adequate B12 lowers homocysteine that damages vessel walls
  • Hashimoto's antibodies can take 8+ months to reduce on strict lion diet, with one patient's TPO dropping from 650 to 50 and TG from 50 to zero
  • Autoimmune conditions may result from immune responses to plant toxins attached to tissues rather than true autoimmune attacks, explaining why elimination diets work
  • Eat fatty meat until taste signals diminish - nutrient receptors in the stomach communicate through the vagus nerve when adequate nutrition is achieved
  • Children require ketones for proper brain development until age 25, as two-thirds of the brain preferentially uses ketones even when glucose is available
  • Check red blood cell levels of zinc and magnesium rather than serum levels for accurate assessment, aiming for high-normal to above-normal ranges
  • Carpal tunnel and neurological symptoms often improve through reduced inflammation from ketones blocking the NLRP3 inflammasome pathway
  • Beef-Only Diet for Weight Loss and Nutrition
  • High Blood Pressure and Carnivore Diet Benefits
  • Eye Floaters and Visual Problems on Carnivore
  • IBS Treatment and Microbiome Testing
  • Dairy Intolerance and Hidradenitis Suppurativa
  • Children on Carnivore Diet and Brain Development
  • Alopecia Treatment with Lion Diet Protocol
  • Hashimoto's Thyroid Disease and Antibody Levels
  • Brain Injury Recovery and Seizure Management
  • Cholesterol Myths and Heart Disease Truth
  • Proper Eating Signals and Electrolyte Supplementation

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[Music] looks like we got a question here from mm who says I dropped coffee which is great Dairy was stalling my weight loss I'm now one kilo of beef mints per day and drink ice water do I need to add eggs or something or am I getting sufficient nutrition from only beef yeah no you're definitely getting everything you need from beef as long as you're getting enough fat the fat and the lean are really important important beef mints can be quite lean and so just make sure that you're getting enough fat you some people say oh it's 8020 that's really fatty it's very fatty for today's standards but traditional ground beef was like 7327 or 7030 sort of thing and that's a better ratio of fat to protein so see how much that is probably need to add a bit more fat even grass-fed butter something like that grass fit Tallow is even better best would be fat trimmings from your butcher which would be um uh sometimes they're quite cheap or even free sometimes they just they give those away to people so um because otherwise they they throw it away actually actually they have to pay to get it taken away so so some sometimes they're more than happy to uh just let you let you have it so you ask your Butcher and and see what you can do but many of them will sell it for quite a low price and then you can chop it up in the little squares fry it up on the pan and put little bottle of fat next to your next to your meat and that can work very well but yeah you get absolutely everything that you need just from fatty meat you don't need to add eggs but you can if you like if you enjoy them and they don't react badly with you uh let's [Music] see let's take a look there's a question from um buned who says H hi I've had a uh blood pressure problems and been on meds for 17 years on strict carnivore for 13 days now do you think this way of eating will help after so many years of medication yeah it definitely can it obviously depends on what's causing your hypertension but there are a number of causes very reversible causes of hypertension that really don't just don't get taught or publicized in medical school um because they don't take medications um or procedures to treat um it's you when you when you look at carbohydrates carbohydrates raise insulin and Insulin has hundreds of physiological effects in your body first and foremost it is a growth hormone so it's a an anabolic steroid it causes tissues to grow so but generally not the tissues you want to grow so first and foremost it causes your fat to grow it causes your rectal polyps to grow causes your skin tags to grow causes men's prostates to grow causes uh women's fibroids uterine fibroids to grow and it also causes the muscular layer of your arteries to grow and thicken and get um and so they they're not as compliant and they won't be able to release and actually increase the the the capacity in volume that they're able to hold and therefore increase your blood pressure and so that's a very very easy way of um reversing um well of uh you know very reversible cause of high blood pressure um is getting rid of the carbohydrates in your diet going on a ketogenic diet whether that's a caror diet or another form of ketogenic diet you get your blood blood uh sugar down you get your insulin down and eventually that muscular layer will go back to normal it won't be hypertrophy and that can definitely reduce your blood pressure as well um another thing is homocystine which is um an amino acid that is metabolized by B12 that causes irritation to the inside of your arteries actually can cause damage that can lead to atherosclerosis and plaque and that um can also cause your arteries to constrict causing high blood pressure homocysteine will only be high if you have inadequate levels of B12 for instance so if you're eating a lot more meat and you're ketogenic that's going to hit two major causes for essential hypertension and a lot of people are finding that they can severely reduce their um blood pressure requirements or even come off their blood pressure medications uh entirely so uh yeah so it could very well be uh that you can come off your blood pressure medication but it's something you have to have to sort of see if that is indeed what's going on there there are actually a few people that are also salt sensitive it's actually more rare than people think but it's um it can still happen I have seen that where people have been ketogenic carnivore for a number of years and they're still having weird labile high blood pressure and then they cut out salt and just goes bang to normal within a couple of days so that's something to think about as well and because you're on medication you need to be careful and you need to work with your doctor because you may not need as much blood pressure medication in the coming weeks or months once these things start normalizing and so you can get dizzy or light headed especially when standing up out of a sitting position and um that can be dangerous because you can fall so you get your blood pressure can go too low if you're on medication and you don't need the medication anymore so then your blood pressure may go too low and and that can be dangerous and it falls risk so you know work with your doctor and and if you have any of those dizzy light-headed episodes check your blood pressure if your blood pressures uh showing lower uh levels you need to work with your doctor to start reducing your blood pressure medication which is a good thing and we have a um Happy New Year's from H coach Joff thank you very much uh coach Happy New Year to you as well let's see what is the questions we have here [Music] um here we go let do this one venelin borisov uh who says we got tons of eye floaters like a lot and visual snow uh syndrome one month ago got them checked and the doctors three of them said you fine get used to them they ruined my life I will and keto help you know it's hard to say you know it it again it really just depends on what's causing these things so you know I I do know people that have improved floaters it's um you gotta you're G to have to take these things by on a case-by Case basis though because it it depends on what's what's causing them and what's causing the floaters and and is that something that's that's reversible it seems to be for some people but you know I'm not an opthalmologist so I don't see a lot of these things that's not what people come to to see me for in my practice and so you know I do see a lot of I I've seen people actually um improve their prescription on their glasses and not and sometimes not even need glasses anymore which is quite surprising that wasn't something I was expecting to see that people could reverse you know stigmatism as an adult I mean that was that was not something that I was expecting to see but some people do not everybody so I'm still trying to figure out who you know seems to benefit the most from this from a vision standpoint but some people are which is pretty amazing so from a floater's point of view it could very well be that this could help but it's it's one of those ones you're just going to have to try and see some people absolutely do improve and um I don't I I only see the the positive results though when people saying yeah this help my floaters you know they're just sort of talking about that you know there may be for every one person that's F fixed their floaters there may be 10 that it didn't fix their floaters and I I just don't have that information unfortunately so I think it's it's um it's just something that's worth trying certainly um a because it could help it has helped others but B because it just helps in so many other ways as well you're going to get improvements you're going to improve your health in a number of different ways and it's going to keep you healthy for longer as well so that's something that I think is well worth trying anyway and if it helps your floaters then you know even better and uh yeah and unfortunately the the doctors that you saw and you've seen three of them they don't have any solutions for you so might as well try nothing else is seems to be um on the you know possible to help so might as well give it a try so good luck with that and and if it helps do please you report back and let us know because that would be you know good information and somebody else who's in the same situation um would be nice for them to know about work or even if it doesn't help you know that's good information too we need to know the positives and the negatives so uh good luck with that and I hope it goes well okay we've got a couple um super chats so I'm gonna pop these up versus from busy boy thanks very much for the super chat um good evening Dr Anthony um I used to be on Ridin and sakell and I was so tired changed my diet to meat eggs and wild Cod and chch and read a book uh for sleep and stopped meds I've never felt so good well that's amazing I'm really glad to hear that and um doesn't look like there's a question attached and just just a sort of a great result so really glad to hear that I'm glad you're doing so well and thanks for sharing that I hope that um is encouraging to others and um helps them get uh get on it as well uh nav thank you so much for the for the super chat um nav says asked a question question on patreon last night I have IBS striet carnivore for 7even plus months tried fermented dairy tried switching foods to but zero relief after ask about um B and HCL and B supplements not sure what else to try at this point please advise yeah um I actually did answer that question that should be on the um the the patreon group um homepage so I I uploaded that uh let me just double check and make sure that's uploaded yep that's up that's uploaded so um that that should be on there um that's why I went through a lot of different things that that you can try basically it comes down to trial and error um you're just trying different things trying different foods that that may react you even try fasting for a couple of days and and see uh and start adding things back in one at a time and see what causes a problem and what doesn't and stick to the ones that that are you know give you the better result and try to avoid the things that that give you a bad result and if you're fasting for a couple of days and you're still getting these weird issues it may not actually be the food it may be something else going on so you can try that um try the trial and error have a food journal and a diary and you know f for a day or two and cut back in you know water fast drink water and and but don't eat anything for a day or two see how that affects you add one thing back at a Time start with beef or lamb something like that something easy see how that affects you try something else Etc um you can try the HCL you can try bile supplements although it's um you know it it's may or may not help but you know it's you can dry it you know and just see what happens um but uh I think that I think it's well worth trial and error the fermented dairy you know if it's a a microbiome issue having having Dairy you need to well having fermented anything if you're just eating it straight it's going to get burned up in your in your stomach acid you're it's not going to go past that and get your um get your large intestine but if you put that on meat and chew that up and swallow together the thought is is that that sort of gets these little bacteria down deep inside the Bolis of food and sort of like a trojan horse gets it by the defense of your stomach acid and um then can get some of those bacteria down to your to your colon things like that so hopefully that that can help if it is the case that you you have a microbiome issue and you need to replenish your the microbes in there with fermented dairy Etc then just remember that you know once youve reestablish your microbiome it should be able to keep prop perpetuating itself because they're living organisms without having to take more fermented dairy so it may not be a microbiome issue you can always check your microbiome and if it's just completely sacked because you've been on you know long-term antibiotics uh recently you know then that then that might be something to look at but um you know that's something you can test at least and then other things you can you can look around it with trial and error so hopefully that helps and I have a sort of a longer more in-depth answer on the patreon if people are interested in the patreon it's just um I have a patreon group in a community that's quite active and helpful on um you know in patreon and in Discord everybody talks to each other helps each other out there a lot of very experienced people there we do weekly q&as actually twice weekly um sessions one's a Q&A and one's sort more of a hangout thing we just different just sort of talks and chats about whatever is going on and um and so that's available and then you can watch the the replays and things like that um as well so uh yeah so nav you know do go back and so I hope that helps but also check out the longer answer on uh patreon so um question from Ben Cox thank you Ben for the super chats very nice of you um Ben says I've been doing carnivore for one year and um my hydren I yeah Jesus I'm always bad with that word hydren denitis um from a hydr denitis Jesus and every time I try to try adding Dairy though I get headaches and a sore throat any ideas avoid Dairy that's probably what I would do um anytime you have a negative reaction to something like that I would just probably avoid it um especially if there's some another alternative that doesn't cause that sort of problem Dairy is something that that some people just react to actually a lot of people react to negatively and so it while Dairy has a lot of you know excellent nutrients in it that are that are very good for you um they they're not they're not giving you any nutrients that you're not going to get from fatty meat you know it's not it's not like you're you're missing something essential that you you absolutely have to have it um and um and you'll be in trouble otherwise so I wouldn't I wouldn't worry too much about that just cut that out and U with a lot of these different sorts of reactions that people have it's best to just go very clean uh red meat and water and high fat and that's usually how people do the best with these sorts of things hey guys just want to take a second to thank our sponsor at carnivore bar I don't promote many products because honestly all you need to be healthy is to just eat meat for those times that you're out hiking road tripping or stuck at work and you want nutritious snack that is just meat fat and salt if you want it the carnivore bar is a great option so I like this product not because it's just pure meat but also because I want the carnivore Market to thrive as well and the more more we support meet only products the more meet only products there will be available in the mainstream so if this sounds like something you'd like to get behind check it out using my discount code Anthony to get 10% off which also applies to subscriptions giving you 25% off total all right thanks guys so next question is from electron babies thank you very much for the super chat um I just wanted to say that I've been following you for years and you've been absolutely inspirational and just wanted to stay love with you do well thank you very much I really appreciate that I'm really glad that that that's helpful um or that my videos have been helpful um yeah it means a lot to hear that and I appreciate you saying that you know you get a lot of a lot of people saying a lot of weird things um you know against me and you know um you know saying I'm horrible in a lot of different ways and so it's you know but it's always it's the the positive comments far outweigh you know the the negative detractors and and you know the negative people are never people that have tried it never people that actually paid attention to what I'm saying they're just you they're just trash talkers and children so um or you know children parading as adults but um it's uh it's never actually people that have you know sat down and paid attention and actually given things a fair shake or tried it themselves so you know uh it's always great to hear uh people are doing well and you know that's that's why we're here you know it's to help people so thanks for that let me take a look as well um see some stuff on Instagram um okay so here's one from Instagram that's from uh Miss Zara who sorry who says hi Anthony my son is four and his animal base my daughter is almost two in carnivore um what age would you introduce fruits if you had a toddler for for me personally I would I I would I would probably sort of keep it as it is I mean I think it's I think it's really great that they're that they're eating so much meat and and even full carnivore especially when they're developing it depend I guess it depends on the fruit I mean all fruit are going to have toxins unfortunately avocados and grapes are thought to be very healthy but they will kill cats and dogs so there are toxins in there right and so that's not necessarily um you know something that's you it's not going to be you know just wholly benign um even even though you know this is presumably something the plant wants wants you to eat it wants something to eat the fruit it doesn't necessarily want us to eat the fruit most plant most fruits on Earth will kill you you get go in the woods and you see random bulbs and berries and things like that you do not eat them it's not safe to just eat random fruits or berries because they could they could very well be deadly poisonous or just harmful in some other way so you know that's something to think about they do have toxins even the ones that are that are more edible um do have some toxins so that can build up they'll have a lot more toxins when they are picked green they actually won't detoxify because when it's when it's green the seed's not ready and that's the whole point of the fruit is is the seed and um because that's that's the plant's baby that's the Next Generation and um and so and so when it's green there are far more toxins in there and if it's picked green they don't detoxify it's the plant that actually has to pull out those toxins they don't if it ripens in the Box those toxins don't just you know go away um it's uh so it's really important to understand that so if you're going to eat fruit or you're going to give fruit to your kids make sure that fruit is ripen on the tree tree vine ripened and so forth that's really important and um the other thing is is that sweet fruits are way more sweet than they really ever should be they've been bred to be as sweet as possible like all the fruits and things like that that we're eating all the plants in general that we eat there there's not natural plants that we ever would have eaten in the wild we've cultivated them to be very different and the sweet fruits are far sweeter than they should be so they have a lot of sugar in them for kids kids especially you really want to be in ketosis uh you want them to be in ketosis because their brains require ketones to grow properly ketones are your brain's primary fuel source why do I say that whenever oh you need glucose for your brain well you need glucose for some parts of your brain that's true but two-thirds of your brain actually actually um primarily and preferentially run on ketones because if you have abundant amount of ketones and you have a sufficient amount of glucose two-thirds of your brain will only run on those ketones even though there's enough GL KET or glucose available it will just push those to the side and only take in the the keton so that's a preference so that's the primary energy source it's only when those ketones go down you start filling the gaps with glucose so and you know the rest of the remaining amount of you know parts of your tissu that still will use glucose perfectly adequate amounts of glucose that you just make yourself you don't actually need them from outside sources and when you take in outside sources of glucose it suppresses your body ability to make ketones and you actually overwhelm your system with the amount of glucose and blood sugar and things like that so that's not good either um the other thing is that ketones cross the blood brain barrier and reconstitute into fatty acids which are then used as the physical building blocks and Matrix of the brain and nervous system so it's actually really important to be in ketosis as a um as a kid especially when you're you're developing your brain and nervous system it's really really important and so you know I mean you're still growing physically growing your brain until like 25 actually probably maybe even slightly more than that and you're always growing and remodeling your brain and and um and growing new synapses and things like that hopefully you should be um throughout your entire life or if you're not you're actually losing them and your your brain's actually um deteriorating which is not good so you know I mean at least going through puberty honestly and um you know carbohydrates will raise insulin insulin will disrupt your hormones it will stunt testosterone it will stunt growth hormone and it will um you know block the effects of growth hormone insulin can stimulate growth hormone if in a way but it also blocks them the action of growth hormone so you know you you can sort of screw yourself there as well and and it definitely will um will block the production of estrogen and so for brain development it's very important to be in ketosis and for puberty and hormonal development it's really important to be in ketosis as well um so I don't know 25 is probably a good time to start thinking about fruit um sweet fruits anyway and and just always be Vine ripened um tree rip sort of things I would I would really avoid um any other kinds okay let's see here next one on the list is uh any desk thank you very much for the Super Chat uh hi chaffy on a lion diet and have seen no improvement on my alipa totalis it's actually gotten worse and turned into universalis um what should I do I'm four months into the diet and losing all hope well I'm really sorry to hear that unfortunately Ely you know there can be other causes of alpan and all the different sorts of issues that we that we um deal with carnivore can can address a lot of them but not necessarily all of them a lot of chronic issues and autoimmune issues absolutely can be vastly improved by going on a carnivore diet especially a lion diet do make sure you're getting enough meat you just make sure you're getting enough fat in particular and cut out everything else even coffee and artificial sweet ERS especially those are pretty nasty stuff and um and then you want to check out other things as well you know if there's other sorts of reasons you're losing your hair I mean one is um can also be from from things like low thyroid or low nutrients in other respects and so if you have a malabsorption issue even though you're eating extremely healthily and a high nutrient diet and High you know nutrient density food if if you're not absor if you're not able to absorb these things if you have some sort of malabsorption issue then you're not going to get in the food that you you're not going to get in the nutrients that you need so you know do um do think about that you know check your B12 check your vitamin D zinc magnesium red blood cell levels of zinc and magnesium are are important to check the serum levels are not very accurate um they're just really yeah they're just they don't tell you what's going on inside the cell and inside the cell is what matters and um you want to be on the high end of normal if not above the normal reference range for these you vitamins and minerals because the a the normal reference range is just the average for the community it's not it's not um telling you what's optimal and that's why every single lab in every single town and every single every single country have different reference ranges so the same labs in the same city or or different labs in the same city will have different reference ranges so that's not helpful right um if one lab's telling you you're fine other lab's telling you you're too low another one's saying you're too high it's like well that's a bit useless isn't it and um there's usually not that big of a range but but you can have ones that say you're normal and others say that you're too high for instance or some that say that you're normal and then some say that you're too low it's you want to look at what's optimal and optimal is a very different uh bar and so I would check check those things I would check your thyroid I would check your iodine I would check your you know B12 D3 zinc magnesium these other sorts of things make sure you're getting um you're absorbing all these nutrients if you're drinking coffee if you're having anything besides meat and water cut it out just get rid of it and see how you go you know and um at the end of the day it could be that something else is is triggering your alopecia and unfortunately even uh you know fixing your diet and and being very healthy otherwise you know may not be enough but you do check those things too because those can be those can be a bit um off and uh and if you're not absorbing things you know maybe it maybe it just comes down to you need a bit of liver in your life you know you know two to three ounces of liver two to three days a week that sorts out a lot of people who aren't quite absorbing as much as they need okay so you need to just see if you're one of these people I don't seem to be I don't have I don't eat organs and all my vitamins and minerals are just you know in an optimal level and uh so that's good but um you know not everybody's like that I I check uh you know really thousands of people's blood U blood work at this point and um you know everyone will be in the reference range everyone will be in the reference range or above the normal reference range but you know I look at optimal range and so okay I want people be perfect perfect perfect and so I use different reference ranges and most people on a cornivore diet will be perfect or very close to perfect some people just need a bit more help maybe people are on medications like a metformin that blocks out B12 sometimes people are taking coffee that will block out and strip out magnesium and zinc and it will stop you from absorbing a lot of other nutrients if you have coffee with with your meal for instance or if you take your medications in and around the time you take coffee you will just not absorb those medications properly and you can measure this you know I've seen people many people people on thyroid medication having coffee within an hour of having their thyroid hormone they just don't absorb it much at all and so you know that's just something you need to be aware of that these sorts of things can affect it and so I would just check those things and if uh everything's fine and perfect you know you just you know start looking around for other things that might be uh impeding your your progress with this um but it could be yeah something unrelated to your diet anyway and maybe that unrelated thing is is reversible and and maybe it's not but uh hopefully it is good luck Tom J thank you for the Super Chat Tom says do do any of your Hashimoto patients require iodine uh to lower antibodies line diet for three months and an antibodies are still high TP TP TBO is over a thousand and TG is over 500 um so not not necessarily you know lower I they don't necessarily need iodine to lower their antibodies they may need iodine if they're deficient and that just comes from the soil if it's not in the soil it's not going to get in the grass it's not going to get in the meat it's not going to if it's not the soil it's not going to get in in the broccoli you know just not going to get in the food um so check your iodine and if you are deficient then you know eating richer iodine Foods I mean Seafood will typically have quite a quite a lot of iodine just because the ocean is quite replete with um with iodine so that's like sort of the ocean soil is just the water right so the water is is usually quite replete with with iodine and so Seafood typically has good is a good source of iodine and if you need to supplement with with drops just do that gently you know um and you just you I don't think that taking iodine is is dangerous for most people there there are um you know suggestions in the literature to say that you want to be careful with Hashimoto uh and supplementing iodine for some reason that can exacerbate Hashimoto I don't know why that would be I don't know if that applies to uh carnivores may or may not you know there's a lot of differences um between um these groups you know people that eat differently but at the end of the day you know you need iodine but you know just on just you know Playing devil's advocate and just being sa playing on the safe side just might as well just go slowly check your iodine again and just use uh the least amount that you need to get you in an optimal range for iodine as far as your antibodies are concerned that that shouldn't really um be required to lower your antibodies it can take um well over a year or two before you get your your antibodies down to nothing um think about celiac disease now I do I do a video on uh YouTube called um the real cause of autoimmune diseases and I talk about my theory on what autoimmunity is and how it's not really autoimmune I don't I don't think that it is um and and I look at it and one of the examples I use is celiac disease celiac disease is an autoimmune disease but it's called a gluten mediated autoimmune disease me and that's because you have to eat gluten in order to have this so-called autoimmune condition so is that really an autoimmune condition if you need something else to kick it off I would I would argue that it's not and um and here's why so gluten is a lectin that's a plant toxin it's protein with a carbohydrate substructure it can Bine to all sorts of different antigens on the surface of your cells and so it binds and damages your gut cells called ocytes and that can cause leaky gut that can cause all sorts of different gut permeability problems and issues as well so whenever your body is being attacked you mount an immune response to this right that's the norm that's a normal response and so in this case you're getting antibodies towards that gluten that is attacking your um is attacking your uh your inter ites right so you get these antibodies now they're attacking the gluten that's on your anas sites but now this there's this gluten an terasite complex or gluten antigen complex and those antibodies may be attacking those but you're the the the cells are getting hit in the crossfire so this is like civilian casualties so the antibodies aren't attacking your body they're attacking the gluten that is attacking your body so it's mounting in a defense right but because that gluten is stuck to your cells your cells are getting hit in the crossfire right so this damages your your vli and your micro gets flattening you get Mal absorption issues you get all all sorts of problems but then when you remove the gluten problem goes away and your body stops attacking the gluten and the tissue can heal and in a number of weeks even four to six weeks you get a complete uh revitalization of your anas sites and your V and your micro right even though the antibodies stay elevated for up to three years after your last exposure to gluten and that's important because those antibodies are not now attacking your body so that's not an autoimmune disease is it because those antibodies are not attacking your body they're attacking the gluten and I think that's what's going on with all autoimmune conditions including Hashimoto and so it can take a while for these things I me gluten is just in your gut and then comes out and then you stop eating it goes way but these other lectins and other sorts of things glyphosate all these other sorts of things that can get in your body and potentially attack different tissues and organs and things like that and and have your body mount um you know an immune response as a result of that that can stay in your system for a while it can take take a while for your body to clear that so you may have ongoing sort of symptoms and obviously if you keep ingesting these things that can keep reintroducing um these problems um these problem sort of chemicals into your body which is why like a lion dig just ruminant meat um like beef and lamb you know seems to work best for people with autoimmune conditions because I think that it's just eliminating out absolutely as much of these potential uh problems that that will attack your body and your body then responds to with antibodies um uh as possible right so you know but even then you know if you get rid of all these things you may still have these antibodies elevated but if this theory is true which you know it is Theory then those antibodies shouldn't be doing anything negative to your body just like in Celiac right and so as long but they're waiting there to pounce right and so the second you eat something you're not supposed to and those things hit onto your thyroid you've got all these antibodies that are just waiting to blow it up and so you can have a serious problem and of course then the antibodies will go up again because oh we have a problem so you know when you get exposed to some sort of pathogen and you make and youve and you make mount an immune response to them you you keep these antibodies around for a long time this is this is the premise behind uh vaccines right and um you know so then you're you're mounting this immune response but then you track your tighter over time and you can see that they're actually still elevated for a while they might go a bit lower and a bit lower and so to work in the hospitals you have to be um inoculated to Hepatitis B among other things so you have to check your Hepatitis B Tighter and make sure that you have a high enough antibody level that if you get exposed with like a needle prick or you know get exposed to somebody's blood and they have Hepatitis B which is very contagious that you know it's not going to um that your your antibodies are high enough that you'll be able to just stomp these things down before they you know get in and start causing damage to your liver right and um so that can be the same thing with ashimoto right so and with Celiac again three years these things can be elevated right so you have very elevated Hashimoto's antibodies and so it can take years before those things come down but they they do sort of steadily come down steadily come down steadily come down that's sort of what a normal thing a normal thing that we see with antibodies in general you know and but it could be that even though these things are elevated as long as you're eating properly they hopefully won't be attacking and damaging your thyroid so long story short no I don't think you need iodine in order to lower your antibodies because I think there's a different mechanism going on you need you need iodine for other reasons though so make sure you're getting enough iodine and then just keep track of your of your antibodies be very strict red me water because that's the thing with Hashimoto is you know if you if you have Crohn's disease and you eat something that you shouldn't you have bloody diarrhea for the next three days and you're just you're hating life and so you're like okay I'm never eating that again it's very very very self-motivating hashimotos it can take longer than that you you may just feel run down in in the next sort of week or two and not even realize it was because you you had something you know outside of plan you I mean some people with autoimmune issues can't deal with um you know monogastric animals like pigs and chicken fish if they're farm raised and being fed a bunch of corn soy and garbage that they're not designed to eat you know they're not going to be able to to process those toxins properly it's going to get into their meat and their fat and that can get into you and you can get these lectin and glyphosat-prozess and even glyphosate U before you absorb it I've seen articles talking about how it appears that ruminant animals can actually break down glyphosate um which is really important because that's just everywhere now and it's in the bloody rainwater in some places now so you know it's um it's something to think about and so really really really want to just stick to just red me water and you know I I had um I'll give you a timeline here from what I've seen so I had a lady that had her TPO antibodies were 650 and her TG antibodies were 50 and after eight months of a strict lion diet strict lion diet her TPO went from 650 down to 50 and her TG went from 50 to zero or you know non-detectable anyway so but that's in eight months of being perfect right if you're not perfect it's like you're getting exposed to that pathogen again and those that immune response is going to spike up again right so if you go and you know travel somewhere and just say oh well I'm just going to let it go for a couple weeks because you know I'm on vacation or whatever you might feel pretty wretched for the next several weeks after that um and you you could check your antibodies they might have spiked up again so Spike up real quick it take a it take a very long time to slow to come down and then you eat something else spikes up again so you have to think about this in in that context you know anytime you eat you're exposing yourself to another pathogen your body's going to jack up your immune response so um keep that in mind oh goodness so s of the the Super Chat sort of got away with got away from me there so oh oh Christ I'm gonna have to see I'm GNA have to check something um just because sometimes it's it's possible to sort of stop the um the super chats um at some point I'm going to need to to stop those uh let me [Music] see come on come on come on come on what is going on here so I don't know sorry I'm I'm trying to find this thing where it's where I can see where I can um sort of pause the um the super chats and things like that there we go okay yeah so I don't need to do that now but you know just in in a bit I might have to I might have to the super chats just just because I don't want to not get to them but there's actually quite a quite a bit here so let's see how we do okay so next question is from uh nav who ask how do I get my microbiome checked it's a it's a feal sample so there's a lot of different things you don't need a doctor to do this you just get um there's different companies depending on on the country and area that you're in I don't I don't know all the different ones or what the best ones are but this is something that can is eminently googleable and so just find a find a place that that does microbiome testing and they'll send you a kit basically you'll need to provide a stool sample you put that sample in their little container and you'll send it off to them and then they'll run it through the lab and um and and give you your answer and some feedback um anytime you get any sort of test just remember this is a snapshot in time this can change all the time especially your microbiome microbiome can change very very readily but it's it can give you um a very good look at you know what's going on right now that snapshot in time and then you can check it again in a few months you know and if it's just Barren and you don't have a lot of diversity and things are pretty rotten okay that that's you know maybe a good time to start thinking about the um you know fermented dairy eaten with and chewed up and swallowed together with meat and um and then you do that for for a few weeks and um you really don't once you have established a microbiome a new microbiome that should just perpetuate based on the food that you're eating and um and you'll support bacteria that you want with fatty meat that's the those are the microbes who are are the ones that that do well on those so then you check it again and see how you're going and um you get some weird changes and things like that that you're concerned about you know you can you can check it that way way and see how you go and if it comes back and it's very diverse and healthy and all these different sorts of uh species that are good for you then you know then you you can at least check that one off the list on uh possible concerns um and issues that might be causing your IBS so good luck with that Annabella the happy carnivore nice to see you again um hi Dr a whenever I eat a lot of fat trimmings I get a keto whoosh um increased water weight I wonder why I've also been able to get off diabetes meds this year hey congratulations that's really good um that's interesting I've never heard of Keto whoosh I've keto heard of Keto flu and keto rash and um I don't know keto diarrhea I don't I don't know what else you want to call it um but I haven't heard of Keto whoosh before um but that's interesting that is interesting that you you would gain water weight that's actually not something that I've really seen much before um you know I wonder if that's the same if you're eating butter or something else or Tallow uh or just fatty meat you know if you're if you're just eating a fatty a fattier cut of meat do you get that or is it just specifically the trimmings maybe try to play around with that and um and see see if it you know what what is doing what because there might be some subtle differences there and at the end of the day if you're getting you know an unwanted uh effect you know by eating fat triming versus is something else you just just avoid those things and um and see how you go but maybe there's something strange to do with the trimmings themselves as opposed to Fat um because that's that's interesting it um really shouldn't do that and so um maybe maybe play around with that and see if other sources of fat don't do that and you know but but you know do tailor things in a way that that work best for your body and and again congratulations on getting off your diabetes medications that's fantastic uh so nav thank you so much for for the very very generous Super Chat um nav says when I do strict line diet hands are dry and crack uh hands are dry and crack in winter but when I do carnivore adding back in eggs butter bacon and sardines my hands are less dry I thought line dot would suffice is this an omega-3 deficiency now that's interesting you it may be that you're just not getting as as much fat um if um you know Bacon's not going to necessarily have all the all the Omega-3s you want unless it's it's sort of pasture raised grass-fed butter will have a good amount pasture raised eggs will as well uh certainly wild caught sardines are good for the the um healthy fat side of things and it could very well be that if you're eating grain finished um beef and lamb if they're in the feed lot for up to three months they typically don't have uh much of the Omega-3s to speak of they they basically sort of wash all those out at that point at least some some studies have shown that anyway um so you know I I but yeah I mean I I I would be suspicious that you know the dry sort of a lot of times when people get dry skin it's often that they're not eating enough fat so maybe they're just not eating enough fat in general or maybe it's the quality of fat like you mentioned so um try increasing uh the fat and but again you know it it doesn't doesn't have to be line diet unless you have to be on a line diet uh for your your specific health issues um like autoimmune issues and things like that I always feel best on just red meat and water that's just I it tastes the best to me I feel best uh I don't have any autoimmune issues I don't have any specific health issues that I um have have to deal with I just feel better in general so I just naturally gravitate uh there anyway um but yeah if you find that you're doing better um with a bit of other other things mixed in that could be a reason why and either way if that's where you feel the best then then do that uh Dean Christine brain injury uh thank you very much for the Super Chat I'm not seeing a question um but um possibly there's one uh down below I don't I don't know um I don't have anybody helping me here checking things so I'm not actually sure um if I'm going to be able to see that unfortunately let me just try to see if I can sort of look around here um there's something here Dan says I have two brain injuries and stopped um have two brain injuries and a brain stem injury uh brainstem damage I'm very sorry to hear that I also have seizures and I just went off my seizure medications I went off uh my muscle relaxer about a month ago can I get your thoughts um well um I suppose I suppose I have to do a bit of guess work here you know have seizures and went off my seizure medication um I is that if that's in the context of on a carnivore diet and you don't need your seizure medications that's fantastic I'm really glad to hear that um ketogenic diets in General will improve the outcome outcomes from um traumatic brain injury recovery that that's in that's in the clinical literature uh and we so we've known that for years and so you know as I was mentioning before you really need ketones for your brain for development but also for regeneration regrowth and repair and just your normal maintenance you need the ketones to reild build the physical structures and and the ketones also to power your brain optimally and it also reduces inflammation and uh and further damage that can happen um in in cases of injury as well because ketones directly suppress inflammation and then you're getting all these other sorts of wonderful things for your brain like B12 vitamin D dhaa EPA arachidonic acid all these other sorts of things that are very very very necessary and beneficial to the brain so they all they all really help and we've been treating epilepsy for a century now with ketogenic diets animal-based ketogenic diets high fat meat-based ketogenic diets like a carnivore diet and so a lot of people are finding that they can improve their epilepsy um and or you know um um or or those sorts of seizure disorders and uh by going on a ketogenic diet and even um some people that get even more improved by going on ketogenic carnivore diet because there are other triggers for seizures uh like caffeine and coffee I I know people that um have to avoid caffeine and coffee because that that will trigger their seizures for example and that's ketogenic right so um so if you're able to come off those medications because you're doing so much better then that's great that's really that's really exciting to hear it's um it's always nice to see that uh muscle relaxers as well you know this is if this is helping uh in that way as well and you're coming off more and more uh medications then that's always really great to see I think that ketogenic carnivore diets are a really really really good um uh solution to a lot of people's neurological conditions and and recovering from uh brain injuries as well um and this is something that that you know we're seeing even years down the track of people actually improving their neurological function after a stroke or or some sort of injury to the brain which is wild you know that's that's not supposed to to happen but it is happening and so hopefully it can continue to happen for you as well and and hopefully you get get more and more improvements as you go so good luck with that uh bun mamed thank you for the super chat um she asks how can I transition my four-year-old twins to carnivore they love pasta and rice Etc you know that's understandable and you know sometimes it takes a bit of tough love to sort of transition uh kids you know because they they're just used to these things they don't know why they can't have them anymore they enjoy them um and so on but you know you can you can just talk to them and explain them explain to them uh you know why you know this is it's not really all that good for you this stuff is better and all that sort of stuff but you can also just do it in a very subtle way where you know you just don't have as much in the house maybe you start you know cutting it down or they say oh you want some rice and pasta oh sorry sweetie you know we don't really have that I'll have to go to the store you know but we do have this other nice thing that you like the different sorts of meats that they like eggs that they like you prepare those andan so it's not that they they're they're going from well they like they're not allowed to have pasta which they love and they have to eat this other thing which they really don't like all that much you're making them meat like you know liver or something like that they're just like oh no I'm not doing that that's going to be a harder cell but if you um if you are making sure that they're getting uh foods that they really like you know meats you know fatty meats and eggs and things like that that they really like um then you can say you know yeah we don't have that tonight sorry we're not going to be able to have rice tonight but you know we do have this other thing that you really like and so you know that's what we're going to have you know and you can slowly transition these things out of the house and then all of a sudden just the only I mean they're four you know so um you know four yearolds are not dumb but you know it's it is something that you can sort of change their environment and they'll get used to it fairly readily and they can adapt and and actually just be very fine with it and constantly you're educating them because they they were just sponges for information and knowledge at that age and so you know you can just talk to them about how important this is you know for for them and they're growing and their growth and their brains and all these sorts of things so it's like well you know the pasta is not really good for you because you know we want we want you to grow strong and want you be very smart and so that this food is better for that and and you know for all these different reasons and you can explain in as much detail as you think that they would be able to understand um but that's a way you can do it and just um you know four-year-olds they I mean you think back to when you were you know five or six you know young K We Were Young we didn't know much but we weren't dumb you know and they're not either and so you know they're if you explain to them and and don't them if you just tell them what's going on um and say why you know it's better to eat these sorts of things they'll they'll they'll pick that up and U and again you can sort of just you know slowly filter these things out so there's just less and less of this junk in the house and then they're getting used to eating you know this good food and they they like it and so then and then with the education on top of that then they understand why they're doing it so when they're out and over at other people's house they'll make good choices when they're on their own as well later on in life so that's how I would approach it anyway JC 94 thank you for the Super Chat uh hi doctor will strict carnivore fix my carpal tunnel it it can definitely reduce inflammation and improve neurological functioning and reduce the inflammation in uh our our neurological systems including our peripheral nerves um so people do improve uh from a symptom point of view in carbal tunnel and other sort of impingement um features such as radiculopathy like if you had a had a compressed um exiting nerve group from the from the spine for example uh from the spinal cord but it depends on the level of impingement and it depends on um you know how much is able to be reversed so you have certain level of of inflammation and swelling in that area thickening of of the different tissues in that area and that's causing compression on the nerve um how much of that can be reversed how bad is it um so some of that let's say some of that reverses is that enough to give you significant Improvement it probably will improve somewhat is that enough to make it so you don't want surgery that's something that we'll have to sort of wait and see carpatonal surgery is piss easy I mean is it's just one of the more basic um surgical procedures that exists I mean there almost every surgical especially does this general surgeons can do it um orthopedic surgeons can do it neurosurgeons do it like there's all sorts of I mean it's it's very very straightforward I mean it's just just a little incision right here you just and you just sort of dissect up and cut off you know that that sort of the thick ligament that's that's trapped over there you just make sure you get all of it and see make sure the nerves free and clear don't cut anything that's not supposed to be cut Stitch it up and you're done it's um you know it is it is it takes minutes you know um and yes you have a wound there and you need to sort of recover from that but it's a it's a pretty straightforward recovery especially when you're cornivore but it could very well be that you can avoid all that in the first place and and improve your your certainly will improve your inflammation and um and neurological function in a number of other ways could very well improve this too to enough to the point that you don't need or want surgery and that would be great um but there's no guarantees unfortunately because we don't know how much uh inflammation impingement that you have and how much is possible for your body to reverse so that's just a sort of a um a wait and see sort of thing Annabella the happy carnivore thank you for the super chat again uh Happy New Year Dr Anthony uh I love you you're amazing well thank you very much I really appreciate that very sweet of you and it's nice to see you again it's nice to see a lot of the old faces and names haven't done a live in quite some time so it's um it's nice to see everyone and um and some new faces as well because we're doing this at sort of a different time so we were able to get um different people from different parts of the world Matt Hutton thank you very much for the Super Chat Matt says that he has all the symptoms of hypothyroidism um low tea and low in some minerals and vitamins had three thyroid tests monthly TSH is 2.4 uh 2.2 1.8 and then 4.3 and um plus patient two I don't know what that is oh part two okay let's see if we can find part two that's a might be a bit of pain in the ass where is that where's part two um oh it's actually another Super Chat okay so here we go and Matt says part two um test the day uh prescribed came back 1.7 now confused uh free T3 and four generally okay free T3 was low once reverse T3 is high been carnivore for four months any ideas and there's a part three let's see I I put all these together in my head um got low levels of TPO antibodies which is the Hashimoto's antibodies just under normal so that's the thing the these reference ranges for the for the antibodies are a bit are a bit weird because they're saying below this amount of antibodies is is normal if you have antibodies towards you know for for an autoimmune condition then you have that autoimmune condition by definition that's how you diagnose these things and it just means that you're not in a flare up and so you know and uh which you know if you've been carnivore for 3 months that can help bring those those levels down but if you have antibodies then you have that condition right so even though it's under the normal level you you I would say that you do you do have Hashimoto's disease right um he goes on to say that um no improvements and not sure whether to keep taking Leal thyroxine or weit it out a bit well as long as you're as well first of all you I can't give out you know any specific medical advice you know because you're not my patient but um uh you can't give that over over the internet but just generally speaking um you know you need to work with your doctor to to to try to get you on the right right levels of thyroid hormone to get your TSH really under two is ideal it's you know reference range goes from like 0.5 to 4.5 is a pretty pretty normal reference range for for TSH but anything TSH above 2.0 actually doubles your risk for developing thyroid cancer so that's obviously not a good reference range so above two is is not acceptable in my mind so you want you need that below two really below 1.5 is ideal below two anyway and so you seem to be there that's great but then you also need to look at your T4 and your T3 you can have perfectly normal and uh even optimal levels of T4 and you may have pretty substandard T3 if you're not converting T4 into T3 T4 conversion into t 3 T3 does the work and uh so being low on zinc for example um can mean that you won't convert T4 into T3 there are other reasons as well but but zinc is a major one and so you know you make sure that you have enough zinc beef is uh an excellent source of zinc the best source of zinc are oysters and um second best is is H beef and so you know the meat products that you're eating um you know should help with your zinc but you know that can take time to come up as well so you know if you have optimal levels of of T4 and optimal levels of TSH but you're not converting into T3 you can still feel pretty crummy you know so think about that and also your reverse T3 your reverse T3 basically counteracts your 3 T3 and makes it so it doesn't doesn't work properly right so it slows it down so you look at that ratio between those two and if your reverse T3 is high you can actually um you know lower your your thyroid function so that's important to understand as well um I I would definitely keep it up um and I would get on to your doctor about getting on the proper dose of of either Leo thyroxine which is T4 um or if you're not if it's not getting into T3 properly even taking like a slow relase T3 or a desiccated um Pig thyroid is um it's called different things in different countries but it's prescription and um and uh and that can give you all the t's t0 T1 T2 T3 and T4 so it gives you all those te's hey everyone really happy to announce a new sponsor for the show and for everybody down in Australia Stockman steaks who are delivering highquality grass-fed and finished pasture raised beef and other meats flash frozen and vacuum sealed to your door something I've been enjoying a lot of myself recently as well they also have a great range of specialty items such as high fat keto mints and carnivore beef and organs mints with liver kidneys and beef heart as well so use code chaffy today for free order of beef mints or another specialty gift along with your order at Stockman steaks.com and I'll see you over there thanks guys so you know that's important to uh to look at as well it may be that you need uh something besides just T4 you know that's that's what's commonly prescribed for people and and some doctors be like no no no that's the only thing you need but it's not really you know there's some people that um don't convert properly so that that's the other thing you need to to think about and um you know you need to get someone who understands about reverse T3 uh because you know you might need to get up to a slightly higher level um with your T3 in order to offset that reverse T3 and um yeah and that's just one of the ways your body actually slows down your metabolism when you if if you're doing long-term fast or you're famine or something like that one of the things that happens is your reverse T3 goes up to dampen the effects of your T3 that's the the idea anyway and so if that's elevated it may take some time before that can come down eating enough showing your body that you're not in a fam you don't need to slow down your metabolism encouraging your metabolism to go up instead of down and um and maybe that you need just more um Med medication support more thyroid support in the meantime until that sorts itself out so you know some things to look at anyway okay I've also um killed the uh the the super chats just because um you know I think we've been I don't know how long we've been going actually we've been [Music] going yeah for like an hour or so and I've still got a number of of super chats left so I'm going to I'm go through the rest of these and then then we'll call it tonight so I've can I've put a pause on the super chats um for the meantime anyway because I don't want to uh not get everyone's question um amaran vmir thank you very much for the Super Chat it's very kind of you um hi hi doctor hypothyroid adrenal issues carnivore for 1.5 years now um still doesn't work Dr brigh doesn't get why I don't get better on NDT um but still not improving can't uh sleep because of hunger interesting uh also reactive uh hypogly hypo I'm assuming hypoglycemia what to do well first of all eat more um you know if your if your body's telling you to eat and you're you're so hungry that you're you're staying up and you it's keeping you up at night I would I would eat more eat more fatty meat um you know there are there unfortunately there are other things than than just the food that we're eating or not eating that can affect our thyroid and our adrenals um but this accounts for a lot of them so there could be other outside exposures and other sorts of things that that are you know endocrine disruptors and you know the fates and all these other sorts of scents and perfumes and thises and that and shampoos and Plastics and all these other sorts of things that can screw with these things or it could be something else completely entirely unrelated um and that you that you won't be able to manipulate by changing your environment unfortunately and and and you know probably about 90% of things that we treat now as doctors these non-communicable chronic diseases things that absolutely are preventable but that also means that 10% of things are things that that don't fall into that category so uh it could very well be that you have something in that 10% that is um is is going to be have have an outside cause from your diet lifestyle and environmental exposures so you know it may be that there's something in your environment that's causing a problem you know from a diet perspective just going as strict line diet as possible you know making sure you have all the the requisite vitamins and minerals B12 folate zinc magnesium vitamin D iodine these sorts of things and and taking the medications that you need to to support you know to to replace and augment your own body's ability to make thyroid hormone and and hormones from your adrenals Etc uh that's very important I mean these are very important hormones that uh that you need you can feel pretty pretty rotten as a result of not having them in normal levels and that's something that uh you know an endocrinologist or U even you know a functional medicine practitioner should be able to help with hopefully and so I I would definitely do that I would definitely pursue that and then you just you make your diet and lifestyle and environment as healthy as possible and and see if that helps and and if it does then and you can come off these supplements and medications wonderful and if not at least you have the medications there to help you and and that really is the the purpose of uh medicine is to help fix the things that you can't fix on your own and so you do everything that you can and in as best you can and then you fill in the gaps with medicine that's that's my entire philosophy with medicine now I that's I I look for diet and lifestyle interventions first first and foremost and I fill in the gaps with medications and maybe I'll I'll do that you know someone is hypothyroid um and they they really are symptomatic I'll put them on thyroid medications short term fix their dying lifestyle and then you know eventually be able to take them off of that and um and and but it helps them in the meantime while their body is recovering and that's very helpful because people can feel pretty pretty lousy and be quite sick and have other sorts of problems as a result of not having adequate levels of these these different um hormones in their body so so that's that's important as well so hopefully that [Music] um that can help I mean you know do work with the doctor make sure you're getting on the right doses of these things as well try to get into these optimal ranges as opposed to just the normal ranges you want to get into you know you don't want to just just barely get pressed the lower limit of the the the normal lab ranges because those are typically low anyway and so if you're just on the borderline if you're are you know I mean you're saying that you know there these lab ranges that say like T T3 of three is perfect and you know three to 5.5 is perfect and so three is great and 2.9 is is a catastrophe like oh they're basically the same aren't they you know so if we're calling 2.9 bad we should probably be thinking about three as bad too so you want to be more into the middle of that range above four is where I'd like to see people as T3 and so you know um you know working with someone um you know like Dr brigh or someone else who you understands more optimal reference ranges and uh and can get you there you know and um and then working on the diet lifestyle side of things um to hopefully you know reverse any sort of environmental issues that could be from your diet or something else uh that could be triggering these things and and letting your body heal but you know at the end of the day you know even if this was something that was caused by your your your diet or um or something else there is such a thing as damage done and if there was something that was sort of permanently damaged and curtail functioning of your endocrine organs such as your thyroid or your adrenals it may be that they can't recover enough unfortunately so that's just again something that only time will tell so hopefully that that that works i' just be as strict as possible get your vitamins minerals and everything else just teed up and give your body the best chance it has to recover and good luck with that okay so next question comes from Justice makes capitalism possible um uh thank you for the super chat um to get more iodine should uh egg yolks be soft I don't actually I don't actually know that um iodine is gets denatured from cooking I don't I don't think that it does uh maybe someone in the comments section knows one way or the other but I've never heard that that iodine um gets denatured by cooking it so I don't I don't think that it um is something you have to worry about from that standpoint so um you know again you know if it's um you could certainly get iodine and egg yolks depends on what the chicken's eating depends on the soil that the chicken is being raised on depends on the soil that you know that that the food of the chicken is coming from if that's feed or if that's worms and bugs um it still matters what goes on in the soil so um so yeah so uh but I I don't think I don't think cooking it um is uh is a concern for that not that I know of anyway just cook them the way you like them I think uh Unice bookal thank you very much for the Super Chat uh Unice says hi Dr chaffy is four times more mitochondria uh really realistic it is actually yeah so um there there was a a study I came across years ago when I was first sort of looking into all this uh that showed that after about 3 to four months on a strict ketogenic diet because of autophagy mitophagy you know the cell turn over and the mitochondrial turn over and then mitogenesis making more of these mitochondria that after three four months you have four times the number of mitochondria in your cells and they're four times as effective and efficient because they're newer faster better better versions right so uh yes that's very realistic and in fact after after that your your body keeps improving your mitochondrial function and number and so even have for up to two two and a half three years you're you're still steadily increasing the number of mitochondria and their functionality so yeah that's very realistic Dave Clark thank you very much for the Super Chat Dave says my wife was just diagnosed with spinal stenosis and bone spurs I'm very sorry to hear that her arms go numb and hurt at night when she sleeps I tell her no more carb sugar uh carbs or sugar and line diet might work um thoughts on this well it can certainly help I have I've seen quite a lot of people with you know similar issues with um um even like canal stenosis and certainly foraminal stenosis and impingement on the exiting nerve Roots but even um yeah yeah with with very similar sorts of conditions improve from a symptom point of view certainly it's probably not going to get rid of your bone spurs I I don't think that it that it will um I do know people that have had improvements in bone spurs I we don't really know exactly what the hell is going on with bone spurs and why they're they're they're growing and and sort of calcifying in little blbs on the on the surface of your bones but uh some people do improve those things it's something you just have to sort of look on an individual basis to see if that helps but for everybody it will reduce inflammation ketones beta hydroxy butyrate directly blocks something called the nlrp3 inflammosome which causes inflammation as the name would suggest and so inflammation levels come down you're also excluding a lot of different plants and harmful nonsense like sugar and carbs which increase inflammation in the first place increase inflammation we'll have increased pain and neurological dysfunction and so you're reducing the amount of inflammation coming into your body and you're directly reducing the amount of inflammation that is left by having high levels of beta hydroxy butyrate so those are all good things and those can all improve neurological functioning and ketones just in general improve neurological function and so I see a lot of people with radiculopathy their upper limbs lower limbs um either way that improve from a symptom point of view they don't have this shooting pain and numbness and and so on um and so that's that's very beneficial even though it hasn't reversed the underlying pathology it has made the damage that that underlying pathology is causing and and the pain and that symptoms that it's triggering to lessen which is really good I mean that's the whole whole point it doesn't matter what your scan looks like if you don't have any symptoms right so if we have someone that has like a just a horrible scan we're seeing all this stenosis oh jeez those those nerves all look impinged when we do an exam we look at somebody and they had to have absolutely know symptoms you're not going to operate on that person right because you know first Do no harm surgery causes harm you're cutting through tissue right you're damaging and destroying things and sometimes it's necessary to do that to free up a nerve or something like that but if you if your patient is not symptomatic then you're only causing harm you're not actually going to provide any benefit by freeing that nerve up because it's not causing a problem the nerve is still functioning right so uh yes it can definitely help you know one thing to remember with sugar and carbs is that they cause glycation so all carbohydrates and sugars are carbohydrates carbohydrates are sugars I mean if you take organic chemistry that's what they're called that term those terms are interchangeable right so people oh well carbohydrates aren't the same as suar Jesus Christ it's it's literally a synonym right so we call Sugar just table sugar but those are carbohydrates right glucose fructose disaccharide they're bonded glucose and fructose right so uh these are sugars carbohydrates are sugars sugars are carbohydrates it's the same it's the same word it means the same thing and so carbohydrates all carbohydrates so all sugars all carbohydrates all cause glycation they all will physically fuse as non-enzymatic um binding between the the carbohydrate molecules and other molecules and cause very serious damage and permanent damage it's called glycation and so you get a build up these so-called Advanced glycation a end products AG they literally age you right and they AG your tissue and so there are there are plenty of studies I found any number of studies on you know when you're cleaning out a joint cleaning out all this damaged gross cartilage and arthritis out of the joint they've looked at it and they found that they're just replete with uh ages these Advanced glycation end products this damage from sugar carbohydrates right and so this is also been found in discs in the spine as well causing degenerative discs so when you have degenerative discs and dis and degenerative spinal conditions and you test those things you take take it to the lab you find that they're full of advanced glycation end products these AES this damage from sugar and carbohydrates so in the short term for her position right now yes it can definitely help her from a symptom point of view longterm it will it will help reduce and maybe even prevent this damage from progressing which is very important so it's going to stop this problem from getting worse hopefully so there's a lot of benefits uh by doing this um even just eating more protein that's been shown plenty of times in studies to improve your outcomes with surgery so if she does have to go down the surgical route down the down the road she's going to have much less inflammation she's going to have much better wound healing and she's going to have have a higher protein diet she's going to recover better and she's going to have um you know lower risk of post-operative infection and better wound healing and things like that and better wound healing corresponds with lower risk of post-operative infection and things like that so I I think there's a lot of benefit to doing this I think you're you're definitely right on the the right track here and hopefully that helps her enough that she can avoid surgery um but it will definitely help her and um and can help prevent this issue from getting worse and affecting other areas of her spine and nervous system so good luck to her uh Mike Garcia thank you for the Super Chat uh Mike says if LDL is okay um but may cause plaque if vessels are damaged by glucose as it tries to repair it um could a cerebral flow diverter um aneurysm and high LDL cause plaque carnivore okay if um flow diverter if do flow defter fit it um I no I don't I don't actually think that LDL is part of this process at all really uh I don't think that high I don't think that you need you need damage right um um you know but you you you damage your vessels with glucose you can damage it with homocystine you can damage it with nicotine you know it's sort of weird I think I think the tobacco companies are up up to their old tricks again you know putting out all this research about how great nicotine is is for you uh nicotine sucks nicotine is a drug nicotine causes direct damage to your body and your brain and your vascular CH causes um it actually can damage the AR arterial lining of your your vessels and and that that starts the process for atherosclerosis right and peripheral vascular disease and and these sorts of things right so um not what you want um so uh but it's it's it's more than just glucose so you know the question is um you know LDL is okay but may cause plaque if the vessels are damaged I don't think that that's the case and I and there I don't think there's any evidence to show that in fact there is no evidence to show that higher levels of LDL do not correspond with higher levels of cardiovascular disease and a correlation is not causation in any case um but the only randomized control trials that we have on the subject and people oh well that's not a good St they're the only ones we have so you don't like it do a better one right but um they're the only ones we have and the only ones we have show that in random control trials with thousands of patients that when you reduce LDL and replace saturated fat with polyunsaturated you know vegetable oils and Seed oils that uh more people die of heart attacks and strokes as a result so you this is just not something that we can actually uh even suggest that cholesterol is is part of this you know in fact there are studies looking at um uh seed oils that have you know plant oil plant fats have have sterols which is the plant version of cholesterol we don't need the plant versions of things we need the animal versions of things and the plant versions of cholesterol will lower our cholesterol because it it sends a signal to our liver that we're getting cholesterol in from our food and so we don't need to make as much fine um but it's not actually cholesterol we don't actually use it cholesterol we can't use it properly as as a building um material and structural component we can't use it for to make our hormones or vitamin D Etc which is what all our hormones vitamin D are made of is cholesterol and so it actually screws things up a lot and also macrophases really like cholesterol they hang on to it tightly all cells make cholesterol and um so they really like human cholesterol they don't like plant sterols and so they actually spit those out very readily and um and so they've actually found in like AAA um you know on histology on aaa's which is was in um um abdominal aortic aneurysm that uh they actually found this stuff stuffed in is these all these PL steroids and we also know that they know like trans fats these things are very atherogenic right so these cause a lot of a lot of these plaques these are fats that just our bodies just have no idea what to do with because trans fats don't exist in nature right so that that's something our bodies have never seen before bodies don't know what the hell to do with it they end up getting stuffed into weird places that shouldn't really be there and cause problems like cardiovascular disease and um so that's what's happening I don't think for a cold Frozen second that um that our own um that our own cholesterol is doing that LDL is just a carrier molecule it carries cholesterol it carries uh lipids and it carries proteins so does HDL HDL just carries slightly less cholesterol very similar molecules so just having more LDL molecule FS why why would that cause a problem you know when you fast you just stop eating for 5 days your LDL will go up right because you're actually you you're running on your fat stores it's a metabolic State chain you're running on your fat stores and so you need to transport that fat lipids and cholesterol proteins Etc you need to transport that around the body so you need more of these things as part of fat adaptation is getting more LDL more HDL right is because you need to transport this around the body you start eating carbohydrates goes right down you start exercising it goes up right because you're you're need more energy you're trying to mobilize things right so fasting regular periods of time um that's been shown to improve health in a number of different ways right including heart disease risk and and things like that and so but it raises your LDL if LDL directly causes harm what's going on right um so again it's just like it doesn't make sense it doesn't pass the smell test it was made up in the first place you know there it wasn't a group of serious scientists who like we really think this is what's going on it was the sugar companies in the first place and probably the tobacco companies along with them pushing this narrative and making up this story and paying off people like Ansel keys and professors from Harvard and elsewhere to just and lie and and make up studies and and things like that anel Keys was um you know did the seven na study that was a garbage study he completely falsified all sorts of different data you know he had r value for his Seven Nations there were 22 Nations he had complete data on he just completely omitted those and so he just pick the ones that fit that graph that said oh more cholesterol more heart disease you know the interesting thing there if you just looked at Sugar consumption as well it had the exact same curve for those exact same countries so it's call R value so your relative risk Association for cholesterol was exactly the same as relative risk Association with sugar consumption and guess what anel ke's takehome was from that study and the rest of his work was cholesterol could really be a problem eat sugar instead what kind of do you have to be to make that sort of statement so this guy this guy was uh this guy was a fraud and I I think his entire life's work should be burned to the ground I mean the guy you just can't trust a single word of it um other people think that you know he was just ideologically driven and and and you know really wanted the best but just couldn't couldn't accept that this went against his life work that happens too but I think that it's more likely in my mind just being the cynical sort of person and that I am uh that that this was just he was just a fraud through and through um because it you know he was just paid from day one to just push this narrative you know and um and he had the data in front of him I mean he he had the the r value for sugar was exactly the same as the R value for cholesterol and yet he recommended you just cut out fat and replace that with sugar because sugar is an empty calorie you know you need these calories from somewhere so just replace them with sugar and he was being paid by the sugar companies so I I don't I don't think that he was being honest by any stretch of the imagination and then he actually worked on one of these large scale randomized control trials um called the Minnesota coronary experiment went for on for five years they looked at nearly 10,000 uh people that were institutionalized in um psychiatric facilities or uh the prison systems um prison and jail systems and uh and they didn't you know it was a double blinded study so you know they just replaced like butter with margarine and animal fats with with seed oils and uh and no one knew which group was which and the group that um had you know plant oils and margarin replaced for for animal fats did indeed reduce their cholesterol because of the plant stero and more of them died of heart attacks and strokes as a result so what are we trying to what are we trying to accomplish here and and as a result ansil Keys refused to study the refused to publish the study and buried it so I mean this is like this is know this is this is malice of forethought this guy knows what he doing so it's never been proven one way or the other that LDL is even associated with um with cardiovascular disease certainly has not been shown with randomized control trials and so I I just don't think we play into their game I don't well if we assume no we don't assume a thing make them prove it they have not proven it it's been disproven a number of times so I I just I don't accept that um that position at all and so you know I don't think that we need to even entertain this whole what if scenario because it's just it's it's a it's it's not likely to be um the case so carnivore diet is okay no matter what you do with you know so all of that scenario LDL and this and that and and all that carnivore is good carnivore is what your body's designed for your optimal nutrition for know carnivore diet for a lion is good under all any and all circumstances you know the grasses that cows and horses eat are optimal under any and all circumstances um you know so just the optimal nutrition for a species is always optimal for that species always right and um so you know I I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about this sort of thing and I don't worry about that sort of thing you can watch my videos on the truth about cholesterol and heart disease you can watch um Dr Paul Mason's video he has multiple videos and lectures at medical conferences on on cholesterol saturated fat all these other sorts of things there's books uh written on the subject one's from uh Dr Malcolm Kendrick called the clot thickens goes through all this sort of stuff and talks about his his um idea about what really causing it and so on and so on and so on so um I I I just do not accept the premise that LDL has any thing to do with cardiovascular disease uh if in in any way shape or form apart from being protective against it and um you know prove me wrong but right now the evidence shows uh is is entirely against that theory um Daniela tarantello thank you so much for the very generous super chats very kind of you uh thank you Dr chaffy love your passions and contributions uh I'm super inspired and grateful you're here in Australia started my carnivore Journey one week ago well that's fantastic um that's that's really great to hear that Daniela thank you very much for sharing that um and good luck with that you know the first couple weeks were a bit of a transition period some people feel really good I just felt great right away on it but after two weeks I really just the the improvements I saw in my health and my athletic performance just really just went through the roof I I I just couldn't believe how good I felt I felt better than than I had in my whole life except for that 5year period in my early 20s when I was inadvertently doing a cornivore diet because I just refused to eat any and all plants because my professor of um cancer biology told us how toxic they were and how carcinogenic they were you know when you have a professor of cancer biology um tell you uh that he doesn't eat any sort of plants vegetables or fruits grains because of how carcinogenic they are like you know that that sticks with you at least it's stuck with me anyway so so um you know now I'm doing this and I just feel amazing so uh hopefully you do as well and um in the coming weeks I'm sure you'll feel better than you have in a very long time so good luck with that and um yeah thank you very much for for thinking about it and being open-minded enough to give something new a try uh ground Rush Labs thank you very much for the Super Chat uh question doc does line diet help with high blood pressure and rain out um so yeah so actually um if you if you roll back one of the first questions I answered was actually about high blood pressure the short answer is yes it can definitely help a lot of causes of high blood pressure there are other causes but um many of them are high insulin high homocystine and sometimes salt but not always it's uh but I do I have seen that um even when people have corrected everything else salt can still be an issue so you just just be aware most people are not salt sensitive some people are so you need to be keep that in mind as well so um you know getting your insulin down getting your homosysteine down by getting your B12 up Etc um that can all help blood pressure over time you need to be very careful because if your blood pressure goes too low you can start getting dizzy and light headed and that that's a risk for Falls and so you need to be able to work with your doctor to um reduce your dose as needed especially if you're standing up you're sort of getting laded often um check your blood pressure it's it's probably because you're on too much medication at that point but do go back to the beginning of of this video I I go into a lot more detail about that but that's the that's the gist of it anyway um Annabella the happy carnivore says I lose weight every time I eat fat trimmings that's really good um you know a lot of people find that as well you know when when you're eating properly it stimulates your metabolism it stimulates your body to just actually use its resources properly and and people you know lose quite a lot of weight and and some people actually get through stalls by increasing the amount of fat uh that they're eating which seems counterintuitive but I mean there's even books on this there was a there was a um there's a book in the 1950s from a doctor it was called eat fat to get thin and it was it was all about this and actually you need to eat get these things you need to eat your proper diet and um and by doing that you'll actually stimulate fat loss so glad to hear that you're that you're finding those same results r d thank you for the Super Chat R says how do you avoid underere eating on a carnivore diet um by eating enough pretty simple answer but um uh really just have to make sure that you're eating fatty meat until it stops tasting good your hunger signals are going to be very very different that's why it's easy to undereat on a carnivore diet because normally we're trying to limit what we're eating we're trying to eat just enough to take the edge off so so we don't have to keep eating because if you just keep eating as much as your body is telling you to well you're going to get fat well that doesn't make sense because that doesn't happen to any other animal in nature you know koalas sit in trees made out of their food they have no natural Predators they're not hiding and scurrying and then just desperately trying to get enough food they have nothing but abundance uh in their in their food food supply typically and um you don't see differences in these animals you don't see like koalas that have more abundant supply of of food that get all fat and Bloated because they just don't know how to stop eating and others that are all skinny and straggling because they're just desperate for for resources now you can get the you know the lad the former doesn't really exist you know fat overweight you know you you don't see some fat bloated koala just like oh that's Dave just got no self-control no they they all look like I mean you you tell me you try to tell me the difference between two koalas you see nature it's not going to happen like they look identical right so it's um uh it is the case that you're you're you should be able to self-regulate animals in the wild do uh we don't see different things you obese and skinny and this is and that's all all across nature you just don't see that and the art people say oh well there everything is scarce than nature that's a bloody copout that's an excuse and a dumb one you know that's something that that I was told as a kid too and it doesn't make it doesn't even pass this smell test I mean just just think of koalas I mean just just starts and stops there you know they don't have a scarcity in their resources typically and and when they don't have scarcity they don't get fat and Bloated so you know that that's just a a non-starter there um but because we're eating garbage food and carbohydrates it raise insulin that blocks leptin that causes reactive hypoglycemia and we say oh we need to eat we need to eat you have all these very clever food scientists that have spent the last 40 years making food as a addictive and compulsive as possible you need to be able you need to stop yourself and say like no I'm gon I'm gonna stop even though I want to keep going my body's telling me to keep going I need to stop because your body's getting screwed up mixed signals right so if you cut all those things out and you're just eating carnivore diet you don't get those screwed up mixed signals anymore you're just getting real signals your body's saying yeah yeah you could do that and you're saying oh no no I got to stop so you're stopping way too early you need to keep going until meat stops tasting good your hunger signals are going to be very different you have to relearn these things and but a fail a good fail safe uh for the vast majority of people unless you're on medications like cortical steroids like you know prazone pricone hydrocortisone things like that that that will screw up your hunger signals barring that if you're eating just fatty meat and water it has to be fatty because lean meat starts tasting Bland pretty quickly so you need you need the fat it's very important but but as long as you're just eating that you listen to your taste buds if fatty meat tastes good you're hungry keep eating each bite will taste slightly less good until finally it doesn't taste good at all that's because you have um receptors in your stomach that track up the vagus nerve to your brain and tell your brain how many nutrients are in your stomach because your body tracks nutrients it does not track calories and so if you're getting enough nutrients and nutrition your brain says hey we have enough of this we don't we don't need any more of that and so your taste response dampens down so you can have a a big steak and the first bite it just tast it's the best thing you've ever eaten in your entire life and after a while it's just tastes a bit Bland like cardboard well why is that it's the same state cooked at the same time in the same conditions it's still warm and yet it first bite tasted fantastic and there was a gradient sort of slowly getting uh less amazing until finally just doesn't taste good at all why is that that's because your brain controls what what experience you get on the tongue right because it's trying to tell you something right if something is bitter and is awful your brain is telling you don't eat that that's there's something harmful in there there's something bad in there don't eat it right and um and it could taste good because you these food scientists have designed things to taste good sugar is a drug and it's addictive we say like oh this is something safe and gives me energy but we we've refined that and put that in garbage and and that's obvious obviously not the same thing and um you know and while we we you know may have found fruit every now and then it would have been seasonal on local and then we would have had to Face winter and you you know we're going to have have scarcity throughout the winter right so you know getting a bit of putting on a bit of you know weight in the in the summer and putting on a bit of extra fat to get into the winter probably not a bad idea but you're eating that every day all day not a good idea so you eat fatty meat until it stops tasting good and that's how you you make sure you you you don't um undereat uh it's the same thing if you're losing weight gaining weight putting on muscle doing whatever dealing with autoimmunity it's always the same thing you apply the same principles and your body will tell you how much to eat you eat fatty meat until it stops tasting good try to get one to two grams of fat to one gram of protein you eat as many times during the day as your body's telling you to eat and that's it but you try to at least you at least try to eat once a day if you're trying to put on weight you try to eat at least twice a day and um and that's pretty much it and you'll do fine um but just make sure that you keep eating until you get that bite that sort of just tastes like cardboard and stops being interesting and you'll do fine good luck with that so this is the last question is from Johnny thank you very much Johnny for the super chat um Johnny says I'm having some electrolyte issues on red meat only do you know what the best form of magnesium or potassium to take with a carnivore diet are um I do the die for autoimmune issues so I don't want a flare up that's interesting you talk about potassium you know have you had your potassium checked that's um that' be interesting I I have I you know again I've I've done thousands of pieces of of blood work and things like that I I I've yet to see anybody who has ever actually dropped their potassium i' I've never seen that um but you know there's there's you know there's always room for something something new but uh I've just never seen that um so I'd be interested you know is that something that you know you actually tested on a blood test you actually have hypokalemia you actually have low potassium um you know uh if so I mean there's there's a lot of different kinds of potassium and things that we use in the hospital things like slow K you can even just get uh things called low salt um which is a mixture of sort of a 50-50 mixture of sodium chloride and potassium chloride and it sort of tastes a bit weird it's sort of a different tasting saltiness but you know it's uh it's fine and and that's and that's a a way to get it as well magnesium there are a number of different kinds of magnesium they seem to be better for for different sorts of things for one helps with sleep and then cramps and then this is and then that um some of the best magnesium supplements are the ones that have a mixture of a lot of those and so they all all come together um you want to get ones that that have high high bioavailability as well um it can the in inactive ingredients can also matter as much as the active ingredients to do with absorption Etc um I'm not I'm you know I don't have sort of like a sort of list of all these sorts of things I exactly what to look out for but these are the principles that you need to watch out for um there you know there there are like in Australia they have like prescription grade supplements which I think is bizarre but it but what that does for you is at least is what it it's um is um is that it it at least goes under better regulations and controls and and you know so it gets checked and saying it says that it has this amount of these things it has those amount of those things because they're they're checked and regulated whereas most over- the- counter supplements just don't have that uh check you know they might have some independent labs to sort to check these things and quite often those independent Labs show they were like yeah this doesn't have um exactly what it's saying it does or maybe doesn't have anything at all to do with what it says it does so those sorts of things like the supp supplement industry is really not regulated and so you need to be you need to take that with a um a grain of salt and and be careful with that as well um someone in the comments mentioned that um potassium citrate um is is sort of the best form and that's sort of what shows up in food great um I really have just never seen anybody that needed to take potassium but if if you do and you're showing that low on your blood test you know sure you know take uh uh take take what you need but um um you know there are there are also other you know there's the what are they they're different brands there's different sorts of brands that do it if you are going to take these supplement Brands though just make sure that they're you're not the ones that have the artificial sweeteners or the uh artificial flavorings or even the natural flavorings what just no flavorings no flavorings no sweeteners because they're awful they're they're not good for you you don't want them and uh they're not uh what you want in your body so they you know whether or not they have calories it doesn't matter they have chemicals they are chemicals and you're a chemical Factor you're not a combustion engine you're not a steam locomotive you're not burning things for heat energy to boil a tank of water and create steam energy right you have chemicals and you have chemical reactions with those chemicals so um you know things like Stevia and monk fruit sugar oh but it's natural yeah so is arsenic and so are all the plants that we're trying to avoid because they have all these natural toxins that we don't want um you know most natural things on earth will kill you okay so natural Is Not Great uh just because it's natural our natural diet that's a very different thing entirely right it exists in nature you know lions exist in nature they're not they're not good for you t typically um but what your natural diet is meaning what your biologically predisposed to benefit the most from that's that's a very different story so um I don't think that you're going to get a a flare up by taking those supplements as long as you don't have any artificial ingredients or sugars and sweeteners and anything else besides the actual uh electrolytes that you want so just be very careful with that um but those flavorings and sweeteners can definitely trip up your autoimmune conditions so just be very careful with that so just take exactly what you need don't do anything else hopefully you be able to get what you need uh from meat trying organs and things like that um liver is one of the best supplements on Earth it's Nature's multivitamin and it's going to have all the things all these different sorts of things that you uh will do very well with in the correct most bioavailable forms so that's something to think about as well um kind of creepy blood BL has a lot of really good electrolytes and the right forms you can get these from a butcher i' I've gotten blood from a butcher and just sort of drink the plasma if you get it fresh enough before it clots you can just drink it down if it does clot different story then it then there's just like the plasma that separates off and you can drink that but plenty of electrolytes plenty of uh plenty of nutrients as well so um good luck with that hopefully a bit of organs can help with that if you need some magnesium and some potassium ium you know go for it take it i' I've really not seen anybody have to take potassium on a cornivore diet typically no one does your body has to really perfectly regulate potassium or you die and so it's uh hopefully something that uh that you you're not you're not in a position you actually do need to to supplement that because that that probably means something else is going on you might need to take a look at that's you know outside of the carnivore diet but either way um good luck with that hopefully that was helpful the brand that I was talking about that that um that's like prescription strength is called it's called metagenics and and they're more regulated and so you can you can sort of trust more what's in them you know and um and uh hopefully yeah uh hopefully that um tells you what you need okay um thank you all very very much I really appreciate that that's the end of the super chats we've going for about two hours which I I actually wasn't really planning on going that long but um uh that's that's not a bad uh length of time and not a bad place to stop so we have a couple super stickers here is very kind of you uh for doing that Anna uh Pavlova thank you so much for that uh she gave two super stickers was very very kind to do and Lisa M did as well so thank you very much uh to Anna and Lisa for that and thank you all for the questions those were all excellent I really enjoyed that looks like there was a there was quite a stimulating conversation in uh the chats and all the different sort of platforms and and I hope that everybody enjoyed that and enjoyed the live so thank you all very much it was great to see you all I'm going to try to do these regularly again at least once a week I'm going to try to find a morning on my time in order to do these um but you know if we if we can do these things um in the evening as well we seem to get a bit of the east coast in America and uh you know the European crowd and the Australian crowd seem to be okay here too and I'll try to do a more us friendly time as well if I can swing it but mornings are difficult for me because I just I work every day so uh that's a bit difficult because I mornings are sort of had to just get to work so but thank you all very much I will try to do these a bit more more often and hope to see you all there thank you so much we see see you next time
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