Dr. Anthony Chaffee explores the fundamental differences between plant and animal foods, revealing why humans struggle to extract adequate nutrition from plants. Of the nearly 400,000 known plant species, almost all contain toxins that can kill or severely harm humans, while ruminant animals like cattle naturally ferment and detoxify plant matter, converting it into the fat and protein that all animals actually need for survival.
The discussion covers traditional food preparation methods like nixtamalization for corn and fermentation processes that historically reduced plant toxicity, while examining how modern agriculture has disconnected us from these protective practices. Dr. Anthony Chaffee explains the dramatic health decline seen in populations transitioning from hunter-gatherer to agricultural societies, including immediate drops in height, brain size, and overall health markers, patterns still observable today in Native American and other indigenous populations adopting Western processed foods.
Key Takeaways
Nearly 400,000 plant species exist globally, with almost all containing toxins that can kill or severely harm humans, while zero toxins are found naturally in meat according to WHO documentation
Ruminant animals convert plant matter into fat and protein through fermentation in their four-chambered stomachs, making beef and lamb safer than other meats even when animals are grain-fed
Archaeological evidence shows immediate health decline when populations shift to agriculture: 5-6 inch height reduction and 11-17% brain size decrease occurring within one generation
Dairy products contain casomorphins that trigger hunger responses and cause overeating, making them problematic for weight loss, while the lactose raises insulin levels similarly to other carbohydrates
Plant Species Toxicity and Fermentation Processing
Lectin Poisoning from Red Kidney Beans and WHO Natural Toxins
Agriculture Transition Health Decline and Dental Health Deterioration
Dairy Casomorphines and Weight Loss Stalls
Carnivore Elimination Diet and What Not to Eat Rules
Nightshades and Fruit Toxicity Including Cassowary Bird Evolution
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[Music] Some things are better than others. I mean, obviously, like I said, you know, there's 400,000 nearly 400,000 plant species in the world that we know of. Nearly every single one of those will kill you or make you extremely sick. So, those are obviously worse, but then there's other ones that, you know, we aren't as bad that you can sort of eat straight. There's some that we eat that we have to actually treat in certain ways, like you have to ferment it. fermentation process we've been using for thousands of years to lower the toxic load and open up the bioavailability of many of the nutrients. And so that's very important. That's what ruminant animals like cow, bison and and sheep do is they have they have a the for gut that fermentss that plant material first and then they they absorb now much more nutritious uh feed and also they break down fiber into uh fat and protein. So that's a big big thing that people don't realize as well that cows and and herbivores they they eat grass and plants but what they absorb is fat and protein and that's what all animals need is fat and protein. >> So that's a major one that plants don't really have fat and protein. Humans aren't able to convert plant tissue into animal tissue or into fat and protein. So it's it's very difficult to extract the nutrients you need. um some some other plants that we eat, you know, but bitter cassava that will kill you. It has so much cyanide in it if you eat it straight. So, they have to have special chemical treatments and different traditional ways of treating it that that lower that cyanide load. Um things like corn used to never be eaten straight. It was never eaten on the cob. The people in Meso America they would uh prepare it was like a sevenstage um treatment process called nishtomalization where they would you know crush it up expose it to other chemicals like lie and other things and um this would lower the toxic load and bring out more available nutrients. So through technology we've been able to figure out how to more safely eat plants in times of of you know privation. But it's not ever going to be optimal. Not in our lifetime anyway. Um maybe in hundreds of thousands of years if we go in that direction. But um it's through technology we've been able to make make more plants um safer to eat. Beans have tons of lectins. If you ate like raw red kidney beans, it could kill you. As little as five uh red kidney beans eaten uncooked or undercooked have put people in the hospital. And that's according to the WHO. There's a whole page on the WHO. And the WHO is no friend to to the meat diet, but they have a whole page about uh called natural toxins in food. And so it's all the different foods that we eat and all the different toxins that exist in them. And not a single mention of any toxin in meat. So it's all in plants or in mushrooms or in algae, which can then get into seafood and things like that, but it's the algae that's poisonous. And so yes, some things are better than others, but all plants have toxins and all plants have have some ability to defend themselves. And so if you are eating those plants, some people are going to have a bit more defenses against it. People from European descent or certain parts of Asia or North Africa, um parts of Meso America, they would have been exposed to certain plants for several thousand years. But while they would have built up some defenses towards these toxins, it's certainly not complete. And so that's why you see disparities, these health outcomes. So people of European descent have certain rate of diabetes and heart disease and cancer, but people from other ethnic backgrounds like Native Americans, far higher rates of these chronic diseases, diabetes, and so forth because they were hunter gatherers up until 150 years ago. And then we wiped out the bison population, especially in Central North America. That was the main state of their diet, nutrition, and now they don't have it anymore. It was just this hardline push over into postaggricultural society. And in the fossil record, everywhere you look and every when you look, when a population went from pre-aggricultural to a post-aggricultural society, there was a sharp decline in the height, brain size, and health of those skeletons. They usually drop by about 5 or 6 in. The brain size dropped by 11% for men and 17% for women. That's immediate. That doesn't take hundreds of years or thousands of years. That was overnight. Every time in every place that people move to agriculture, regardless of the type of crop they moved to, they also had signs of poor wound healing, poor dentition, smaller jaws, crooked teeth, which is not genetic. That's actually a nutritional deficiency that's been proven in uh by Weston A. price and also in dentistry journals. Now, they talk about how this is not genetic. This is nutritional deficiencies that specifically coming from more of the fat soluble vitamins like vitamin K2 that only exists in animal fat, doesn't exist in plants. And so, you're not eating enough fatty meat, you're going to get crooked teeth. And so, in those populations, when you see that sharp decline in health, uh we saw that and we're we're seeing that in real time with the Native Americans, the Native Australians. seeing this right now with the Messiah. There's certain tribes that are transitioning and starting to eat more post-aggricultural food. There's Coca-Cola trucks coming into these remote um villages. Sometimes the only way way you can get mail or get supplies shipped in are on the Coca-Cola trucks or the only ones that actually are having, you know, roots in there. So, it's it's pretty crazy, but they're starting to get modern diseases start getting these diseases of civilization, which is what anthropologists call this. When you transition from pre-aggriculture to post agriculture, they go from having certain health issues like accidents, injuries, infectious disease to then getting uh the majority of the issues are these diseases of civilization which are these chronic diseases or really toxicities and malnutrition. And that's what the Messiah are seeing right now. We're seeing that in real time. So I think the best thing to do is just eat meat. eat what we've been eating for millions of years and you're just eating a highfat meat and water diet. That's the best. Especially ruminant meat because like I said, the ruminant animals are able to ferment and break down those toxins better. So even when they're being fed grain and things that they're not supposed to eat, >> they're better able to break that down and lower the toxic load so it doesn't get into the meat. So that's better for most people. But really, it's just eat any meat that you enjoy, that makes you feel the best, and that you can afford and have access to. And most important, >> fish. >> Fish definitely. Yeah. Any animal. >> Any animal that that we >> No dairy though. >> Dairy is a bit of a a gray area. Usually people do great with butter, but >> dairy has um a lot of really good nutrients, but it doesn't have complete nutrition. you do need other things as well. But it also has it's also a very big difference between raw dairy and and pasteurized dairy. >> Um but it also has uh something called quazomorphines which are chemicals that actually trigger a hunger response and and want you know they >> the little baby mammal >> wants to drink more and more and more. So it compels them and encourages them to eat more and to and to grow faster. So, it can actually cause us to overeat as well. Hey guys, just want to take a second to thank our sponsor at Carnivore Bar. I don't promote many products because honestly, all you need to be healthy is to just eat meat. For those times that you're out hiking, road tripping, or stuck at work and you want nutritious snack that is just meat, fat, and salt if you want it, the Carnivore Bar is a great option. So, I like this product not because it's just pure meat, but also because I want the carnivore market to thrive as well. And the more we support meat only products, the more meatonly products there will be available in the mainstream. So if this sounds like something you'd like to get behind, check it out using my discount code Anthony to get 10% off, which also applies to subscriptions, giving you 25% off total. All right, thanks guys. So this is actually why farmers used uh skim milk which was a byproduct of a waste product really of the butter and cream industry that they would give that to um pigs and they found that the combination of grains and um skim milk the combination of that would cause them to overeat more than each one individually. Carbohydrates will make you overeat because it raises your insulin and that blocks leptin which is our satiety hormone. So we don't know when we're done eating and drops your blood sugar. So then you feel tired and you want to eat again. But also these quesomorphines which are in milk trigger this eat response and so they you just eat more and more and more. And so when people are trying to lose weight especially dairy is one of those things that it's a good idea to cut out because it's a classic weight loss stall and it's one of those things that you can keep eating more and more if you're just eating what you're designed to eat. Like every animal on Earth, your internal mechanisms and signals should tell you how much to eat and when to stop. >> And if you're eating carbohydrates, it'll change your hunger signals like I mentioned. And if you're eating dairy, it'll also do that with the quesomorphine. So if you're only eating meat, you can listen to your hunger signals. If you add in dairy, unfortunately, you you might overeat and often people do. And then the carbohydrates in milk, you really want to avoid for that same reason that you want to avoid the grains because it raises insulin, drops your blood sugar, blocks leptin, all these sorts of things will cause you to overeat. And it also when your insulin is up, your metabolism is down. Insulin forces energy into cells. It doesn't allow it to come out of cells. And so if your insulin gets high enough, you cannot burn fat. And so you want to keep that insulin down at a normal level. More importantly, besides just locking in your fat cells, insulin affects over a hundred different mechanisms in your body and your physiology and your metabolism. So, it's really important to keep that at normal levels. And when you elevate it with carbohydrates, then all of these other mechanisms are out of balance. This is actually the stem of a lot of chronic diseases that we talk about, which again, they're not diseases. It's just you're poisoning yourself and your body mechanics aren't working properly. Um, so I think one of the most important things is what not to eat as opposed to what to eat. So what to eat, you just eat meat until it stops tasting good. And you do that, you know, at least once a day. And if you're trying to put on weight, you do it try to do it twice a day. But then what not to eat. So my hard rule for myself is no plants or mushrooms, no sugar or any sweeteners, and nothing artificial. And that will go for sauces, seasonings, and drinks as well. So that's if you want to do it really, really strict and really pure. And that is where I see, you know, people get the best results. But, you know, if you want to add in something, you can do that. You know, the idea behind this sort of diet is an elimination diet. And you're eliminating out all these possible harms and then you can add some back in. You know, if you think that you might do well with, you know, a bit of spinach or lettuce or a tomato or something like that, you know, give it 30 days, give it 90 days, get it out of your system, see how you feel, then add it back in and see how you feel. I guarantee you, you will see a difference. And I don't like that difference. So, I don't touch this stuff. Um, certain things are worse. Different things that we have to chemically prepare. Obviously, they have more toxins in them. And depending on how you prepare them, you're going to get different amounts of that toxic load out of there. Um, night shades are definitely ones to avoid. So, that's potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, and capsicums, peppers. Um, I would avoid anything with carbohydrates. Any grains, seeds, nuts, beans, legumes because those are a plant's baby. A seed is a plant's baby and everything protects its babies more than anything. And so that's where you typically find the highest concentration of toxins. If you're going to have fruit, people say, "Well, plant wants you to eat fruit because it wants to move your seed." Well, it wants something to eat fruit, not necessarily you. A lot of these fruits and berries have co-evolved with other birds and animals that um that that uh are specially designed and adapted to eat those fruits. Um a casawary bird is a tropical bird. They eat 150 different fruits and berries. They're favor. They only eat fruits and berries. And every single one of those fruits will kill you. Every single one of those fruits will kill every single animal except the casawary bird because those seeds won't germinate unless they go through the digestive tract of the casawary bird. And so it's very important for the plant to be very attractive to the casawary bird and very detrimental to anything else trying to eat it because that is its baby. That's the next generation. And so if a casawary bird leaves an area or dies out, those plants die out. So it's very important that nothing else eats those those fruit. And um but there there's so much more. I mean, we eat grapes, we eat avocados. We say, "Oh, but those are good for you, right? Those aren't bad." Well, they'll kill cats and dogs, right? So, obviously, there are toxins in grapes and in avocados. And in fact, there are far more toxins when the fruit is green because obviously the seeds not ready yet. And so, it's it doesn't want anything eating it. So, it has far more toxins. And then as it ripens, the plant actually pulls out the toxins. If you pick it green and let it ripen in a box, those toxins just stay there. They don't just break down and degrade, >> it has to be pulled out by the plant. And so studies have shown, at least in tomatoes, when you pick them green, >> they don't actually detoxify in the box. They have the same toxic load when they're green as when they're ripe. And the traditional Yeah. And the traditional way of making pasta sauce was >> Yeah. >> You vine ripen them, you dip them in boiling water to blanch them, take off the skin. That's barrier protection. It's where more of the toxins are. And you take the seeds out. And then you boil a living hell out of what's remaining to try to denature a lot of these lectins and toxins that are in there. And now we're telling people, "No, you want to eat them fresh and green is fine." That was the traditional folk wisdom was that green tomatoes are poisonous. I was told that when I was a kid >> and now everyone's like, "Oh, no, it's fine. That's just a wise tale. Raw food, vegan all the way." You know, it's like, "No." And when was the last time you you got an avocado that was picked ripe at the store? It's never it's never going to happen. You know, we're being told to eat five pieces of fruit a day. And so, how do you do that year round? You ship it from the equator. You ship it from other countries that are in season where normally we would only eat fruit locally in season. They're available for a couple weeks and that's it. >> And uh and then you don't have them. You're not getting these in northern Norway >> in December. I'm sorry. Like it's just not it's not natural for you to be eating five kiwis a day in a mango. That doesn't make any sense. And in order to get those kiwis and mangoes up to Norway without spoiling, they have to be picked green. So now you're having four or five times the number of toxins that are in there and a whole bunch of sugar that we've, you know, bio-engineered these things to have, which are not natural either. It's actually okay because you're you're you're going to be seeing the contrast now on how good you feel versus how bad you feel when you're eating these things that you don't want. And that's going to reinforce this. You're going to be like, "Wow, I actually do feel so much better. And when I eat just a bit of rice, I actually feel like crap for 4 days. So, I really don't want